LandRover Disco 1 V8i

[ThysleRoux]

Mooi man !!!

[Johannes]

Mooi !! Hoe het die eerste "test drive" gegaan ?

[Oppies3800]

Gister oggend geskrik. Selfs met die "bleeding" was nie al die lug uit nie. Groot geskrik toe gauge klim. Gelukkig naby waar ek moes wees. Gelos vir die dag en die middag net weer vol gemaak. Huis toe gery en vanoggend weer gery. Geen probleme.

Ek hoop dit is als nou finaal klaar.

[Reenen]

Klink baie bekend.

Het ek gesê dat ek ook n disco 1 gehad het??

Was baie capable offroad...

[Oppies3800]

Klink baie bekend.

Het ek gesê dat ek ook n disco 1 gehad het??

Was baie capable offroad...

Ek hoor en lees niks...

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[Oppies3800]

Radiator is 40% geblock...

Kry more aand terug

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[Johannes]

Sterkte. Hoop hy is nou reg !

[Oppies3800]

Right...

Viscous fan blades...

TDI en V8 sn verskil.

Myne het TDI blades op gehad en al die warm lug terug deur die radiator gedruk.

V8 blades gefit en sover lyk als reg.

Low range in dik sand gery en mooi op temp gebly

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[Apocalypse]

hey?

you mean the tdi blades are opposite?

suck instead of blow?

hells teeth , I suppose it's right - the V8's blades (and many others) run off the 'uvver side darren' of the belt to the drive, whereas the tdi (and many other blades) run off the same side I think.

something I have never ever considered. we usually fit electric fans. you'd be surprised how often people get those wrong too....

[Paul#25]

Right...

Viscous fan blades...

TDI en V8 sn verskil.

Myne het TDI blades op gehad en al die warm lug terug deur die radiator gedruk.

V8 blades gefit en sover lyk als reg.

Low range in dik sand gery en mooi op temp gebly

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Different fan is most likely due to the the two motors turning in opposite directions. One clockwise and the other anticlockwise.

[Apocalypse]

Right...

Viscous fan blades...

TDI en V8 sn verskil.

Myne het TDI blades op gehad en al die warm lug terug deur die radiator gedruk.

V8 blades gefit en sover lyk als reg.

Low range in dik sand gery en mooi op temp gebly

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Different fan is most likely due to the the two motors turning in opposite directions. One clockwise and the other anticlockwise.

I stand to be corrected.... but as far as I'm aware, since somewhere around the mid 1800s all engines have revolved clockwise when viewed from the 'front' - the drive being anti clockwise as viewed from the flywheel as a worldwide convention to allow all driven units to run clockwise as viewed from the power in / input shaft. even a traction engine (mobile steam engine) had a twist in the belt to reverse the drive from the flywheel to a vehcile mounted driven unit...

[Paul#25]

A friend of mine uses a BMW Touring Car drive train in his Lotus 7 replica race car. You have to use the matched sequencial gearbox and diff with that motor because it turned the opposite direction to most other motors. Thought this might be the case here as there is a difference in the viscous fan removal between the Tdi and Td5 motors as one is a left hand thread and the other one is a standard thread. It might be due to the drive belt routing as they don't run off the crank directly. Always time to learn so thanks for the good info.

[Apocalypse]

Different fan is most likely due to the the two motors turning in opposite directions. One clockwise and the other anticlockwise.

I stand to be corrected.... but as far as I'm aware, since somewhere around the mid 1800s all engines have revolved clockwise when viewed from the 'front' - the drive being anti clockwise as viewed from the flywheel as a worldwide convention to allow all driven units to run clockwise as viewed from the power in / input shaft. even a traction engine (mobile steam engine) had a twist in the belt to reverse the drive from the flywheel to a vehcile mounted driven unit...

A friend of mine uses a BMW Touring Car drive train in his Lotus 7 replica race car. You have to use the matched sequencial gearbox and diff with that motor because it turned the opposite direction to most other motors. Thought this might be the case here as there is a difference in the viscous fan removal between the Tdi and Td5 motors as one is a left hand thread and the other one is a standard thread. It might be due to the drive belt routing as they don't run off the crank directly. Always time to learn so thanks for the good info.

I was lead mechanic on Sabine's German touring car locally and in Germany and worked at BMW motorsport SA in the era.... I was second mech on Mike Brigg's car when it was still full Euro touring car specs.

this was about a quarter of a century ago.... thats old kak.

so make no mistake - I know those motors and boxes very well.

Sabine is lovely, Mike a little more grumpy, but you will find that the motor runs clockwise as viewed from the front, and anticlockwise as viewed at the flywheel. like any other engine,

The sequential box was quite a work of art and Steve (lead mech on Mike's car) and I got it down to 11 minutes to remove the exhaust, prop, box, bell housing, clutch, replace the clutch, strip the box and rebuild with new ratios and put it all back together again - the 11 minutes was from the car stopping in the pit lane, being pulled into the pit and the clutch releasing to go back onto the track and included draining and refilling the dry sump tank .


the interesting thing about the box is that it was / is a '2 shaft' manual sequential. most gearboxes are 3 shaft. this is to adhere to the convention that the driven article is driven clockwise as viewed from the input shaft. so, for the most part , any torque multiplier will run clockwise in as viewed from the front and clockwise out as viewed from the front, so as to drive whatever you want to drive in a clockwise direction from the front,

the third shaft of course re- reverses the drive that the multiplier applied at the 'front' of the box.


obviously - the third shaft adds complexity and weight. so the 2 shaft box ditched a few kg and a few bearings and an 'inline' input to output and yes, you guessed it, the box input was clockwise ((from the front) and had a very uncommon anti clockwise (viewed from the front) output rotation - and the output shaft was/is offset from the input.

which meant the BMW touring cars had a rear diff that turned 'the wrong way'

what this meant was you'd find that 10 years later, people would lay their hands on the drivetrain, bolt it into a road going E36 or whatever else they had laid their hands on and voila.

one clown with 6 reverses and 1 forward and he thinks it's because the engine turns widdershins....

[Mad Manny]

I knew that most engines (with very few exceptions) ran clockwise.
When we cranked my dad's troublesome Peugeot (aren't they all?) we cranked clockwise.
But I wasn't aware that some cooling fans ran counter clockwise....

My dad's Rolls Royces and my Isuzu 4 ton truck have wheel nuts on the left that loosen clockwise.
Reason is, when driving, the nuts auto tighten, much like Oppies' do when he gets the repair bills...

[Paul#25]

I stand to be corrected.... but as far as I'm aware, since somewhere around the mid 1800s all engines have revolved clockwise when viewed from the 'front' - the drive being anti clockwise as viewed from the flywheel as a worldwide convention to allow all driven units to run clockwise as viewed from the power in / input shaft. even a traction engine (mobile steam engine) had a twist in the belt to reverse the drive from the flywheel to a vehcile mounted driven unit...

A friend of mine uses a BMW Touring Car drive train in his Lotus 7 replica race car. You have to use the matched sequencial gearbox and diff with that motor because it turned the opposite direction to most other motors. Thought this might be the case here as there is a difference in the viscous fan removal between the Tdi and Td5 motors as one is a left hand thread and the other one is a standard thread. It might be due to the drive belt routing as they don't run off the crank directly. Always time to learn so thanks for the good info.

I was lead mechanic on Sabine's German touring car locally and in Germany and worked at BMW motorsport SA in the era.... I was second mech on Mike Brigg's car when it was still full Euro touring car specs.

this was about a quarter of a century ago.... thats old kak.

so make no mistake - I know those motors and boxes very well.

Sabine is lovely, Mike a little more grumpy, but you will find that the motor runs clockwise as viewed from the front, and anticlockwise as viewed at the flywheel. like any other engine,

The sequential box was quite a work of art and Steve (lead mech on Mike's car) and I got it down to 11 minutes to remove the exhaust, prop, box, bell housing, clutch, replace the clutch, strip the box and rebuild with new ratios and put it all back together again - the 11 minutes was from the car stopping in the pit lane, being pulled into the pit and the clutch releasing to go back onto the track and included draining and refilling the dry sump tank .


the interesting thing about the box is that it was / is a '2 shaft' manual sequential. most gearboxes are 3 shaft. this is to adhere to the convention that the driven article is driven clockwise as viewed from the input shaft. so, for the most part , any torque multiplier will run clockwise in as viewed from the front and clockwise out as viewed from the front, so as to drive whatever you want to drive in a clockwise direction from the front,

the third shaft of course re- reverses the drive that the multiplier applied at the 'front' of the box.


obviously - the third shaft adds complexity and weight. so the 2 shaft box ditched a few kg and a few bearings and an 'inline' input to output and yes, you guessed it, the box input was clockwise ((from the front) and had a very uncommon anti clockwise (viewed from the front) output rotation - and the output shaft was/is offset from the input.

which meant the BMW touring cars had a rear diff that turned 'the wrong way'

what this meant was you'd find that 10 years later, people would lay their hands on the drivetrain, bolt it into a road going E36 or whatever else they had laid their hands on and voila.

one clown with 6 reverses and 1 forward and he thinks it's because the engine turns widdershins....

Thanks for the proper info. Gerrard ran the same times around Kyalami and Zwartkops in that 7 as the V8 WesBank modified.
To the OP, sorry for the little detour from your topic but it turned into a good learning opportunity.