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I received a few screenshots via a WhatsApp Group ;) ;)

It does make for interesting conversation if “we” could stay on topic.

So. What do you make of this?
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Personably Ford’s products are not that good anymore. Some look good (new Fiesta / F-150 etc.) but mass product recalls, fires and turbo’s popping must be having an impact on overall perceptions from consumers.
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Why is the share price down? Probably the China thing?
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I wouldn’t be too bothered about share price being a reflection of anything other than investor confidence at the moment, due to the uncertainty with what’s happening with the US vs China trade debacle. But Mr Trump will get it sorted.

It’s got bugger all to do with the vehicles.

Only 2 American car manufacturers have never gone tits-up, namely Ford & Tesla. But Tesla aren’t looking that great either, but the difference between Tesla & Ford is that Tesla don’t make any profit & only make 3 Cars.

The rest of the US manufacturers are all down anyway. It’s no crisis, unless you were thinking of selling your shares 🤣
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I think Neil is right. It has to do with the general economy in the world. Investors are easily frightened. Perhaps Ford is going to do some changes to 'The Board' and investors got wind of it?
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Neil is right. It is mainly to do with China.

Even the Great & Glorious Toyota took a 8 or 9% drop in profits in China - despite increasing sales by 7%.

It has very little do with product quality...
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Global brands seem to battle in China, unless that global brand has a factory in China making cars for their market.

If you look at the top 10 Cars that sell in China, you wouldn’t have heard of most of them. Yet it’s the worlds biggest car market.

It’s down to quality & price which makes it difficult for a good car to complete with largely crap Cars.

Chinese cars are so bad that they wouldn’t be allowed to be sold in first world countries. It’s only lately that they’ve upped their game, but only with certain ones.

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KurtG wrote:Personably Ford’s products are not that good anymore. Some look good (new Fiesta / F-150 etc.) but mass product recalls, fires and turbo’s popping must be having an impact on overall perceptions from consumers.
But people seem to hate on the Ford brand quite a lot in SA, which isn’t entirely fair. We can name any car brand & it wouldn’t be too difficult to highlight some of the flawed kak they’ve built. No brand gets it right all the time. Not even the fabled Dacia.

As far as Ford goes, they’ve got a long history so it hasn’t always been smooth sailing. But they have certainly got one hell of a history of achievements.
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Who cares about the share price?

You don't base your vehicle purchase on that, do you?



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Oppies3800 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:09 pm
Who cares about the share price?

You don't base your vehicle purchase on that, do you?



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Very good point

If Panarottis drop their share price, it wouldn’t bother me the slightest. I would still buy my pizza from them 😉😉
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This Thread is about the alarmingly low Ford Share price.
Not about whether you'd buy a Ford or not because of it.

We are just hypothesizing about WHY it is so low...
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Although sometimes the share price is impacted harshly as a direct result of bad cars. VW is a classic example.

Less than 3 years ago, VWs share price was cut in half & they have never recovered. This was a direct result of poor engineering resulting in substandard cars & dishonesty in the market.

There are massive & ongoing financial implications.

I’d rather drive an honest Ford than a dishonest VW.
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I don't think the Chinese vehicles have anything to do with it. Chinese vehicles are a flash in the pan then they fade. One can perhaps look at competition from Japan and Germany that takes away sales from American cars. But even so, the dip in share price is perhaps part of a cycle. Anyway, one can't judge a dip over a short term. Perhaps the shares were over valued?
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Ford shares have been dropping for thepast 6 years...

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The share price has nothing at all to do with the quality of the product or the perception of the brand . If you are buying shares based on emotional involvement or your own individual experience , you should probably avoid trading on the stock exchange because you and your knee jerk reactions are what causes share volatility and stock exchange crashes. Share value is based purely on profitability and expected dividends and expected future value. The guys in it for the long run will sit tight and snap up some additional shares sold off at a loss by panicky pizza shop owners and ride out the storm. Uncle Sam isn’t going to let Ford go under, the annual tax from wmearnings bill offsets enormous bail out packages , never mind the contribution to the economy and foreign exchange balances. Believe me . None of the share holders that matter give a continental fornicate about Kuga fires , 1% gearbox failures or public image. The 5% that base their ‘investment decisions ‘ on emotional moments make speculators some money and allow the real investors to increase their holdings .
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