the unthinkable happened....

[Reenen]

Ek het n vinnige loer onder 7 van my offroaders/overlanders gevat, almal het drain plugs

[Prof]

I find the intelligence level of the current crop of fuel 'dispensing' workers to be astounding...
I normally ask them to make a decision...not possible.

With a shaking head I will take the decision taking function from them....

Apoc....concentrate at all times!

[Apocalypse]

Looking around the net I see that
‘ mod’ cars dont tend to have fuel sump plugs ..
... seems that as plastic tanks came in such plugs stopped being integrated ...
though I suspect its another example of economic simplification via ‘ expendible ‘ components being eliminated !
Sell customer less for higher price .

That said plastic tanks are however better.
Can readily be made any shape to fit underside
of vehicle and can be easily replaced
lighter and ... dont rust ... !!! etc etc

... but ,.. also ... much cheaper to make/supply

just doing that Wagoneer and the Power Wagon reminded me why steel fuel tanks suck.

You rarely hear of fuel contamination from the vehicle anymore , and it used to be common place, even on newish cars.

[rudi.hinze]

Looking around the net I see that
‘ mod’ cars dont tend to have fuel sump plugs ..
... seems that as plastic tanks came in such plugs stopped being integrated ...
though I suspect its another example of economic simplification via ‘ expendible ‘ components being eliminated !
Sell customer less for higher price .

That said plastic tanks are however better.
Can readily be made any shape to fit underside
of vehicle and can be easily replaced
lighter and ... dont rust ... !!! etc etc

... but ,.. also ... much cheaper to make/supply

just doing that Wagoneer and the Power Wagon reminded me why steel fuel tanks suck.

You rarely hear of fuel contamination from the vehicle anymore , and it used to be common place, even on newish cars.

Chuck some acetone (50:1 up to 25:1) in the tanks. It dissolves the gunk buildup in the tank, lines and carb. Owner's manual of my 2a suggests this.

The PW tank at least was cleaned and flushed before it stood, so should not be too bad. Just change filters often. Or chuck 5L of acetone in there, let it sit for a day or so, drain it out and then do the ratio mix to clear the gumming up of the works (as the phrase goes).

If the Wagoneer one is stubborn and very dirty, a little (1L) pool acid does a good DIY job, radiator shop with acid tank really works well to clean it out. Also works to find rust holes in the tank.

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[Apocalypse]

Chuck some acetone (50:1 up to 25:1) in the tanks. It dissolves the gunk buildup in the tank, lines and carb. Owner's manual of my 2a suggests this.

The PW tank at least was cleaned and flushed before it stood, so should not be too bad. Just change filters often. Or chuck 5L of acetone in there, let it sit for a day or so, drain it out and then do the ratio mix to clear the gumming up of the works (as the phrase goes).

If the Wagoneer one is stubborn and very dirty, a little (1L) pool acid does a good DIY job, radiator shop with acid tank really works well to clean it out. Also works to find rust holes in the tank.

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We did the home remedy - just too much gunk builds up. rust flakes that don't come loose etc.

After the 3rd filter on the power wagon I just sent it in for a professional clean - perfect!

the Greeen Poweer wagon - Clive's - I wasn't taking a chance. just get it done when you have stripped it that far!

My Waggy is actually Richard's old one and is pretty much a daily user car for him , so it should be fine!

but you do have to keep it in mind - every few years, it's going to be an issue with a steel tank, even when well maintained!

[rudi.hinze]

Chuck some acetone (50:1 up to 25:1) in the tanks. It dissolves the gunk buildup in the tank, lines and carb. Owner's manual of my 2a suggests this.

The PW tank at least was cleaned and flushed before it stood, so should not be too bad. Just change filters often. Or chuck 5L of acetone in there, let it sit for a day or so, drain it out and then do the ratio mix to clear the gumming up of the works (as the phrase goes).

If the Wagoneer one is stubborn and very dirty, a little (1L) pool acid does a good DIY job, radiator shop with acid tank really works well to clean it out. Also works to find rust holes in the tank.

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We did the home remedy - just too much gunk builds up. rust flakes that don't come loose etc.

After the 3rd filter on the power wagon I just sent it in for a professional clean - perfect!

the Greeen Poweer wagon - Clive's - I wasn't taking a chance. just get it done when you have stripped it that far!

My Waggy is actually Richard's old one and is pretty much a daily user car for him , so it should be fine!

but you do have to keep it in mind - every few years, it's going to be an issue with a steel tank, even when well maintained!

Fair enough, at a certain point in time it's easier to send it in to be done.

How is the old girl (PW) running?

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[BushWacker]

As regards the fungus gunk Ive also heard
one can add some meths into the tank ...
just. as one can use acetone.

I had a rusty Range Rover tank that was also blocking up filters ...
... looked at vinegar/ acid/deruster etc processes , even considered shaking tank
around with grit and pebbles ... the works ...
but decided better option was to just hand job over to Silvertons , Strydom Park.
They recommended cutting tank open
oyster-style just under the waist seam, sandblasting, rebraising/soldering and then sealing the inside with modern day ‘3M’ sealant ( like ‘varnish’!).
Said it was a procedure/sealant they used
on old aircraft tanks !
I phoned 3M to check and all seemed right and so gave Silvertons the go-ahead!

[HenriSteyn]

As regards the fungus gunk Ive also heard
one can add some meths into the tank ...
just. as one can use acetone.

I had a rusty Range Rover tank that was also blocking up filters ...
... looked at vinegar/ acid/deruster etc processes , even considered shaking tank
around with grit and pebbles ... the works ...
but decided better option was to just hand job over to Silvertons , Strydom Park.
They recommended cutting tank open
oyster-style just under the waist seam, sandblasting, rebraising/soldering and then sealing the inside with modern day ‘3M’ sealant ( like ‘varnish’!).
Said it was a procedure/sealant they used
on old aircraft tanks !
I phoned 3M to check and all seemed right and so gave Silvertons the go-ahead!

Very interesting solution Chaz.

[Michael]

water in garage tanks (&methanol/condensation)
fungus in diesal
... and so, off road and overlanding especially,
the need to drain/clean a tank can unfortunately be a very necessary thing.

That's why we have the NF Fuel Guard.

Dissolves water in fuel
Kills Diesel Bug / Algae
Cleans dirt in fuel tank.

1 bottle treats 1200 litres. So when you go overlanding you can just put a few ml in each tank as preventative method against all the dodgy fuel you get out there.
We also have the NF Outback Guard which is a one bottle per tank option (for those lazy ones) and offer even better protection.