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Clutch Questions

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Fearless (3.0D-4D Fortuner 4x4) needs another new clutch again.
Fearless eats clutches like the ANC eats public funds.
My old KB280DT also needs a clutch.

Where to buy?

Best Brand (Exedy, LUK, Sachs).

For Fearless, is it worthwhile going for a Heavy Duty clutch?
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You should buy an auto, cheaper on clutches
Cheese, canals and mud. Flattest country in the world. Wish they had 4x4'ing here

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Sachs. And if you cant find a Sachs, buy n Sachs! No need for heavy duty as you haven’t modified Fearless in performance. Valeo’s clutches also worth having.

If you do want to put heavy duty clutches. Have only heard good things about Terrain Taimer (Anthony or Tinus is your guy).

Stay CLEAR of LUK. Load of rubbish, hard and never lasts (personal opinion after putting it in two vehicles)
It's all relative...
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Thanks Peet, I forgot about Terrain Tamer...
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Samaya wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:39 pm
You should buy an auto, cheaper on clutches
That Dutch thinking is starting to infested your brain.
Time to come home....
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Samaya wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:39 pm
You should buy an auto, cheaper on clutches
Pity the Toyota auto boxes are so shyte.

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Mad Manny wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:28 pm
Samaya wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:39 pm
You should buy an auto, cheaper on clutches
That Dutch thinking is starting to infested your brain.
Time to come home....
Might be true, I was going to repair my tyre and (in typical dutch fashion) just replaced it because it was less of a hassle...
Cheese, canals and mud. Flattest country in the world. Wish they had 4x4'ing here

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jakeslouw wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:31 pm
Pity the Toyota auto boxes are so shyte.
Same Aisin 6 speed Auto as in the Gen 6 & Gen 7 D-Max.
Same box used to be on the Pajero Sport before they went 8 speed...
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Mad Manny wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:12 pm
jakeslouw wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:31 pm
Pity the Toyota auto boxes are so shyte.
Same Aisin 6 speed Auto as in the Gen 6 & Gen 7 D-Max.
Same box used to be on the Pajero Sport before they went 8 speed...
Only the later Fortuners. Early ones had a 4 speed like Pajero Sport 2009 to 2013.

What is a clutch BTW?

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Manny

I have a friend with a D4D (don't we all have one, a friend with a D4D :mrgreen: )

The clutch is apparently a known weak point on the D4D (one of few)

As a reference, to see if your situation is 'normal' or not:
He is on 410,000kms and getting his third clutch as we speak.
All were Toyota original clutches.
He tours at least once a year on long dirt roads with camping trailer, and it is also a daily driver.
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I gave up with Toyota clutches when they had to be replaced every 30,000km and went to CBS Krugersdorp and got a heavy duty clutch.

It's now 40,000km old and still going strong and was cheaper than a toyota genuine part at R17,500
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Trolly Fan wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:42 pm

I have a friend with a D4D (don't we all have one,
As a reference,
He is on 410,000kms and getting his third clutch as we speak.
All were Toyota original clutches. .
Alex, tell your friend I'm on 153 000km and about to fit my 3rd clutch...
He needs to lift his game.
:D
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BillyH wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 3:32 pm
I gave up with Toyota clutches when they had to be replaced every 30,000km and went to CBS Krugersdorp and got a heavy duty clutch.

It's now 40,000km old and still going strong and was cheaper than a toyota genuine part at R17,500
.
Billy, only the clilutch Fearless came with was a Toyota part, the 1st replacement was a LUK.
The next was also done at CBS Krugersdorp...
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Mad Manny wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:12 pm
jakeslouw wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:31 pm
Pity the Toyota auto boxes are so shyte.
Same Aisin 6 speed Auto as in the Gen 6 & Gen 7 D-Max.
Same box used to be on the Pajero Sport before they went 8 speed...
Pity the TCM is so shyte. Aisin is good. Toyota's shift control is terrible.

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I got me some prices:
Toyota OEM Clutch- R8 200.00 including a seal you don't need
Terrain Tamer Standard - R19 400.00
Terrain Tamer H/Duty - R26 700.00 :shock:

For the price of the Terrain Tamer HD I can buy 3 Toyota OEM Clutches & still go out for drinks with the change. :o

I'll EDIT This post with more prices as they come in,

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