Namaqua/Orange/Richtersveld/NC Trip - 2019
- Martin de Jager
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What I am most sorry about, lost three definite yellows, they each broke my tippet and I lost four flies, I enjoyed every minute of this trip. thanks guys.
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2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
- Mad Manny
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I'll never forget this image in my mind:
De Hoop.
Hot day.
Three big baboons (out of a troop nearly 50 strong) sitting on big rocks in the Orange river on the Namibian side, looking across at our camp site.
A meter or so into the river on the South African side, into water up to his shoulders, was Martin, staring the baboons down.
I turned & said "We have a Mexican stand-off, whoever flinches first, wins!".
Martin won, the Baboons then swam upstream & crossed over where we couldn't see them...
De Hoop.
Hot day.
Three big baboons (out of a troop nearly 50 strong) sitting on big rocks in the Orange river on the Namibian side, looking across at our camp site.
A meter or so into the river on the South African side, into water up to his shoulders, was Martin, staring the baboons down.
I turned & said "We have a Mexican stand-off, whoever flinches first, wins!".
Martin won, the Baboons then swam upstream & crossed over where we couldn't see them...
"No one ever got stuck - in mid air!"
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
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So how did the CV joint break
and
how was the vehicle made to be still mobile
what repairs were done ? etc
... did the turning drumstick break ?!
and
how was the vehicle made to be still mobile
what repairs were done ? etc
... did the turning drumstick break ?!
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- Martin de Jager
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Inspecting the CV on removal it fell on the ground in pieces, we inspected the spline and circlip , the spline was severely worn, possible damage from when I did 3 Provinces, the circlip was hardly visible.
the reality , CV repair shops should declare a damaged spline.
I Then made the call and ordered a new complete side shaft out of Cape Town, it arrived overnight and it was fitted, we were again mobile and on the move by 11h00 the following morning.
the reality , CV repair shops should declare a damaged spline.
I Then made the call and ordered a new complete side shaft out of Cape Town, it arrived overnight and it was fitted, we were again mobile and on the move by 11h00 the following morning.
2011 Toyota Prado 3.0 VX,
2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
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I think ? CVs normally fail when rubber boot
torn or broken letting grit into articulating
area .
... then get clear forewarning via
clicking sound esp on turning esp
when reversing ?
but like anything can be overstressed !
and fail ...
torn or broken letting grit into articulating
area .
... then get clear forewarning via
clicking sound esp on turning esp
when reversing ?
but like anything can be overstressed !
and fail ...
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... Veni Vidi Vici ...
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- Martin de Jager
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believe me their was no warning, I know what the sound normally sounds like,
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Marthin was Lucky as I suspect the cage broke and the shaft was still in the Outer hosing keeping the shaft center and able to turn centralized without coming outBushWacker wrote:So how did the CV joint break
and
how was the vehicle made to be still mobile
what repairs were done ? etc
... did the turning drumstick break ?!
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Very lucky, any further problems would have left us stranded, and not even able to get back to Springbok,
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2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
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2019 Invader Duo.
- Martin de Jager
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My car was checked over by Toyota the Monday before we left, all was in order,
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2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
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OK so thats what I couldnt figure out ...Bugger wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 8:57 pmMarthin was Lucky as I suspect the cage broke and the shaft was still in the Outer hosing keeping the shaft center and able to turn centralized without coming outBushWacker wrote:So how did the CV joint break
and
how was the vehicle made to be still mobile
what repairs were done ? etc
... did the turning drumstick break ?!
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... so the loud crack/breaking sound just
the cage ? !?
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I have not seen the Brokenparts that came out
But On the vW Kombi if they break cv’s often just the Cage break
With Marthin I suspect that
I was laying In front of the Vehicle while Martin moved forward and back and saw everything turning slight offset but safe intact not broken cv boot at all so no need to Remove and make a plan on the Outer side
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But On the vW Kombi if they break cv’s often just the Cage break
With Marthin I suspect that
I was laying In front of the Vehicle while Martin moved forward and back and saw everything turning slight offset but safe intact not broken cv boot at all so no need to Remove and make a plan on the Outer side
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Here is a cracked cage and caused no traction
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- Martin de Jager
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Bugger, your last photo I believe gives all the answers, I could hardly see the circlip, I believe the shaft pulled out with the serious articulation of my left wheel, and that destructed the cage.
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2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
2019 Invader Duo.
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- Mad Manny
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I've snapped two sideshafts on Fearless.BushWacker wrote:I think ? CVs normally fail when rubber boot
torn or broken letting grit into articulating
area .
... then get clear forewarning via
clicking sound esp on turning esp
when reversing ?
but like anything can be overstressed !
and fail ...
The first was the Original one, the 2nd was a used bent one the scum at SAC fitted instead of replacing a torn CV. It lasted 4400km.
Both snapped on an uphill obstacle (like Martin's) when I applied gas to gain momentum (as happened to Martin) in both cases there was no warning, just a sudden loss of forward progress.
In both cases I heard nothing but people outside heard a loud crack.
In both cases the side shaft snapped near the CV....
"No one ever got stuck - in mid air!"
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'