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Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:56 pm
by Chris Stoffel
This is what this thread will be about. Because it is very very important.
People are dying out there. By the dozens. And it has to stop.
So, watch this space while I go and do some thinking.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:17 pm
by KurtG
What’s the point of a recovery point if the sand anchor doesn’t work ?
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:29 pm
by Oppies3800
You only need those things if you get stuck
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Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:52 pm
by Chris Stoffel
This is a pad eye. The people that lift stuff like containers etc. have these where they connect the slings to, with a shackle. Take note of the 'cheeks' around the hole. It makes the pad eye thicker so that the shackle fits perfectly.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:57 pm
by Chris Stoffel
We call the pad eye recovery points. That is where we connect our shackles to. The shackle pin must almost be a perfect fit in the pin hole.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:54 pm
by XJ Junkie
Those last 2 aren’t rated shackles Chris....just sayin’
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:09 pm
by Chris Stoffel
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:54 pm
Those last 2 aren’t rated shackles Chris....just sayin’
Yes, indeed. We will get to that.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:47 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Now, one gets the thing in the photo below - hitch receiver. You slide it into your tow bar where the tow ball is.
This is not good. Don't use that. It is a no no. One don't snatch from the middle of the tow bar. The recovery points should be as close as possible to a strong part of the chassis, like bolted to the ladder frame. Or bolted to the aftermarket bumper at the point it attaches to the frame.
I hope you get my drift.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:00 pm
by Outlaw Shaun
The biggest issue is people use equipment without understanding exactly how to properly use them .
Recovery points as stated above need to be as wide as possible .
Shearing of a bolt hasnt been seen or experienced by many .
Its scary .
Spreading load under stress is very important .
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:01 pm
by ThysleRoux
That comment was off topic !!!! Mannyyyyyyyy !!!!
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:17 pm
by Mad Manny
The single most important reason a 4x4'er should undergo training or be a member of a good club is...
* So they don't flip or roll the vehicle, possibly with body parts flailing out of openwindows.
BUT!!!
The 2nd most important reason a 4x4'er should undergo training or belong to a good club is...
* to learn how to do a safe recovery.
Members of the 4x4Action Group FB Group page would have seen many funny clips of recoveries gone wrong...
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:30 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Some common mistakes made we often see with shackles.
Look at the pics and figure it out for yourself
Once the shackle pin is bent it is very difficult to unscrew from the shackle body.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:37 pm
by Johannes
Great stuff. Carry on please !!
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:58 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Now I want to talk about these 'Recovery points' you find under vehicles. It is there when you buy them. These are not recovery points. These are strap down eyes and towing points. They tie the vehicle to the flatbed with these tie down points.
( I don't want to see any comments about Hiluxes and Land Rovers on flatbeds. You guys got it?
)
There are holes all over the place on the chassis. Don't just bolt something to these holes. It might not be thick and strong enough to have a recovery point fitted to it. There is a nice pic that demonstrate this.
Re: Recovery Points and Shackles.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:25 am
by Umpalumpa
Chris Stoffel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:58 pm
Now I want to talk about these 'Recovery points' you find under vehicles. It is there when you buy them. These are not recovery points. These are strap down eyes and towing points. They tie the vehicle to the flatbed with these tie down points.
( I don't want to see any comments about Hiluxes and Land Rovers on flatbeds. You guys got it?
)
There are holes all over the place on the chassis. Don't just bolt something to these holes. It might not be thick and strong enough to have a recovery point fitted to it. There is a nice pic that demonstrate this.
So, my Hilux with the Loop on the chassis rail in the front is NOT a recovery point?
Are there any factory fitted recovery points then?
Disclaimer: I am also here to learn.....
