Recovery Points and Shackles.

[KurtG]

Thanks Chris, some good info in here. Keep going.

[XJ Junkie]

Now, one gets the thing in the photo below - hitch receiver. You slide it into your tow bar where the tow ball is.
Don't use that. It is a no no. One don't snatch from the middle of the tow bar.

Although you’re correct about the ideal placement of recovery points, it’s not an absolute sin to recover off a well made point in the middle of the towbar. Same with that receiver, those are lekker.



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[XJ Junkie]

So, my Hilux with the Loop on the chassis rail in the front is NOT a recovery point?
Are there any factory fitted recovery points then?
Disclaimer: I am also here to learn.....

I’m not aware of any manufacturer that fits & rates recovery points on their vehicles.



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[Johannes]

That loop is just a tow point !! To tow your Toyota if needed ! A lot of bakkies and cars have them . Not very strong for recoveries !!

[XJ Junkie]

Also, we should never winch off those tow points

[Chris Stoffel]

Now, one gets the thing in the photo below - hitch receiver. You slide it into your tow bar where the tow ball is.
Don't use that. It is a no no. One don't snatch from the middle of the tow bar.

Although you’re correct about the ideal placement of recovery points, it’s not an absolute sin to recover off a well made point in the middle of the towbar. Same with that receiver, those are lekker.
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".....well made point in the middle of the tow bar...."

My problem is that we don't know how well the tow bar is made. The stuff we buy from fitment centers are made for towing. They are not made with snatching in mind. The other thing is that pin that holds the hitch receiver in place. It is not rated and we don't know what the rating is.
But I need some education regarding this matter.

[Chris Stoffel]

So, my Hilux with the Loop on the chassis rail in the front is NOT a recovery point?
Are there any factory fitted recovery points then?
Disclaimer: I am also here to learn.....
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I think Wranglers are the only vehicles that comes with recovery points. They have these hooks on the front bumper if I remember correctly.
Those loops underneath a vehicle is not for recovery, one should not even winch from them as far as I know, especially if the vehicle is properly stuck.
One must remember that these things are not rated. One does not know how strong they are!

[Umpalumpa]

I really am learning alot here! Well worth it. Thanks for all the wisdom and input!
Share some more please!

[XJ Junkie]

I think Wranglers are the only vehicles that comes with recovery points. They have these hooks on the front bumper if I remember correctly.

The Wrangler do have a point in the front out of the factory. Same with the XJ. But neither are rated.



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[Chris Stoffel]

Now, one gets the thing in the photo below - hitch receiver. You slide it into your tow bar where the tow ball is.
Don't use that. It is a no no. One don't snatch from the middle of the tow bar.

Although you’re correct about the ideal placement of recovery points, it’s not an absolute sin to recover off a well made point in the middle of the towbar. Same with that receiver, those are lekker.
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I have a tow bar on my Wrangler with this removable hitch receiver. The pin is 15.5mm thick. So I tested it with a hacksaw. It is mild steel, very soft.
The pin should be rated as well. Maybe if one replaces the pin with a proper rated bolt?
Guidance is needed.

[XJ Junkie]

My problem is that we don't know how well the tow bar is made. The stuff we buy from fitment centers are made for towing. They are not made with snatching in mind.

Mine’s not garage built . A well made towbar is fine. Plus it spreads the load to some extent, although not as well as a bridal. But I won’t use a bridal unless the pull is going to be severe

The other thing is that pin that holds the hitch receiver in place. It is not rated and we don't know what the rating is.
But I need some education regarding this matter.

That winch pin is rated, but for working load.

The average winch is rated to 4000 to 5000 kg, so the pin will take more energy than you realize. Never seen one snap after 100’s of pulls.



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[XJ Junkie]

Definitely wouldn’t yank on a bolt from the side.


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[XJ Junkie]

This reccie was done off a winch pin. It’s a pretty extreme force.

https://youtu.be/N5iK9sWJQPw


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[Chris Stoffel]

That winch pin is rated, but for working load.
The average winch is rated to 4000 to 5000 kg, so the pin will take more energy than you realize. Never seen one snap after 100’s of pulls.
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I kinda lost you with the 'winch pin' thing?
The bar thinghy that holds the hitch receiver in place is not rated.

[XJ Junkie]

I kinda lost you with the 'winch pin' thing?
The bar thinghy that holds the hitch receiver in place is not rated.

The pin that holds the winch into the receiver is rated. Especially if it’s off a winch plate.

The same pin is used to hold that item in your photo. But you don’t actually need it. Just put the pin through the loop of the snatch strap (won’t work with a rope). Then you don’t need a shackle.



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