Recovery Points and Shackles.

[XJ Junkie]

Chris I have one of these on either side, using a bridle I wouldn’t mind doing a snatch off of it.

Those get used plenty. Not bad, but not for an extremely violent pull, mainly due to those bolts that can sheer. Those hooks would be a direct swap but with better bolts.

Plus the need for a shackle is removed.

[grips]

I fit my own aftermarket stuff, Ranging from ARB, ONCA and STofpad. Fitted a Stofpad rear bumber on the 79 Cruiser this weekend.
Have had my share of serious recoveries. Most aftermarket recovery equipment fits to OEM bracket or bumper attachments.

I am not convinced that theses attachments can handle frequent snatch attempts during serious mud bog downs where a 4x4 are sucked down.
To be honest I would not allow anyone to do a snatch recovery on any of my 4x4`s without me inspecting his recovery points.

Snatch ropes work with light to medium recoveries. After ruining my rope in a mud recovery two years ago I have no urge to replace it. Most recoveries can be done with a strap or sling. Far less impact on recovery points.

I have seen a 20mm steel recovery point being tore out of a Ratel with a kinetic rope. Also a G60 Patrol with a failed chassis.

I think very few of us realize the impact of recovery on recovery points and our 4x4`s

[XJ Junkie]

None of my 4 recovery points are rated as such. But they all work.

[Chris Stoffel]

Chris I have one of these on either side, using a bridle I wouldn’t mind doing a snatch off of it.

Those get used plenty. Not bad, but not for an extremely violent pull, mainly due to those bolts that can sheer. Those hooks would be a direct swap but with better bolts.

Plus the need for a shackle is removed.

The guy I bought my hook from said to rather use the Wrangler bolts. They are very good.

[XJ Junkie]

He’s talking kak

[XJ Junkie]

The guy I bought my hook from said to rather use the Wrangler bolts. They are very good.

Did that guy also build a sand anchor?

[Jeanvn]

The guy I bought my hook from said to rather use the Wrangler bolts. They are very good.

Did that guy also build a sand anchor?

I heard that guy is a guru of all things 4x4 related with a great taste in 4x4s but a terrible taste in engines though.


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[Jeanvn]

He’s talking kak

Do you know of one that broke on a TJ?

Will be good to know then I can replace them.


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[Chris Stoffel]

Building the sand anchor was my kak idea. I'm giving you 2 sand anchors for Christmas if you don't watch it.
One for each leg.
And a boat trip.

[XJ Junkie]

[Rabbiddog RIP 7/6/21]

As mentioned before, no manufacturer that I’m aware of rates their recovery points

Good thread.

Agreed.

LR do not give a rating on the recovery points which are integrated into the chassis, even with all their hype and videos.
On the front I prefer to use the winch which is rated.

[XJ Junkie]

We’ve recovery plenty D3/4’s with that front factory point. They are pretty good.

Winch is great but not always a good idea to recover with. Sometimes a snatch is the only way.

Horses for courses.

[XJ Junkie]

Here are my front shackle hangers. They are not rated either, but professionally fitted & extremely effective.

In fact, the bumper can be removed & they could be used just by bolting them back on to the specialized chassis mounted brackets

[BushWacker]

... and then you get Jate Rings ...

- which are anchored directly to the chassis,
(pref via tube THROUGH the chassis member)
- and ... situated LOW down so that,
depending on the terrain situation,
there tends to be a lift component (vertical vector)
when recovering/hauling.

picture :

https://ibb.co/mNxSUH

[Prof]

Now would these points be ok? One on each side.

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