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Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:10 pm
by KurtG
Let’s discuss this topic, for Wayneman, and decide if we believe it to be a good option or not.

My thoughts are that it needs to be tested is way more hectic recovery situations to be considered effective but for easy recoveries like in this video, it doesn’t look too bad.

https://youtu.be/Tsc-CrYsSE4

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by Michael
Once it is wound around your wheel several times, I'm wondering how you get it off without backtracking back into the obstacle?

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:46 pm
by AndreasR
One negative is the need for an anchor point.

I wonder how much strain that puts on the one wheel.

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:55 pm
by ThysleRoux
For "light" recoveries it can work, but with a seriously stuck vehicle you will put massive strain on one cv/uj, sideshaft and control arms. Imagine running off the thing and wrapping it around a drive shaft 😱

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:24 pm
by Quack
I’ve played woth a piece of rope all day long, trying to knot one!

Most rope will not have a tensile strength strong enough to allow you to do damage to the drivetrain, they will snap before you damage anything, which will leave you stuck as before!


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Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:34 pm
by KurtG
AndreasR wrote:One negative is the need for an anchor point.

I wonder how much strain that puts on the one wheel.
With your superior wealth, just buy two and half the load Image

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:48 am
by grips
Will only work on a 4x4 with traction control or lockers. Won`t move a vehicle with open diff`s.

The strap that goes through the rim stand a chance of being cut on certain vehicles where there is a few millimeters of clearance between the brake caliper and the rim.

Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:08 am
by KurtG
Grips, correct me please if I’m wrong, but doesn’t a vehicle with open diffs start moving again if the one spinning wheel gains traction? And doesn’t this gadget simulate traction thereby causing that “spinning wheel” to gain false traction and then get the vehicle moving again, assuming you attach it to the wheel that has no traction?

It would be interesting to see this thing used in an older Jimny on a cross-axle obstacle.

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:26 am
by Mad Manny
I'm not a fan of these gimmicky things.
This will work but, in my view, it's;
* Only for a lone traveler or where others can't assist.
* Mainly for mud & very soft sand.
* Doubt you'll get more than a few uses out of it.
* Good luck packing it up after a mud extraction.
* How do you 'apply' it once you bogged in mud or deep sand? - won't be fun...

Re: Bog Out Recovery System

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:30 am
by grips
KurtG wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:08 am
Grips, correct me please if I’m wrong, but doesn’t a vehicle with open diffs start moving again if the one spinning wheel gains traction? And doesn’t this gadget simulate traction thereby causing that “spinning wheel” to gain false traction and then get the vehicle moving again, assuming you attach it to the wheel that has no traction?

It would be interesting to see this thing used in an older Jimny on a cross-axle obstacle.
Yes it will stop the spinning wheel but in mud and sand you will now transfer power to the other wheel and make that too spin. You will need two for an open diff.

I once broke a side shaft with a serious mud recovery constraining the spinning wheel with a steel grid.