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Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:50 pm
by iandvl
The lady friend's platkar has required some TLC for a week or two as the INSP display shows when the car is started at the moment. Since it is about 10k km since I last did an oil change and similar, it as probably time and I bought service kit for the vehicle from the GM / Opel dealership around the corner from the office last week.

On a side note: amazing how prices have risen. The same service kit (oil, filters, plugs etc) cost me somewhere just over R1K last time. This time, it put my back about R2,6K...

Thinking it would be a nice quick job on Saturday, whereafter I could lounge around at home, ponder my camping setup changes (there are some largish changes I'm making to my touring configuration on the big truck) and drink beer, I got stuck into the job.

30 minutes later, all was done. And I start the vehicle. But it does not sound lekker - definite miss. Re-check all the work I did. Later on, pull out the HT leads for the plugs and measure resistance. Of the four plug cables, two were in-spec and the other two were waaaay different. So I headed out to the spares shop and got a new set of HT leads. The problem persisted, and I scratched my head figuring out what it could be before giving my good connection, Anthoney Forgey, a call... He mentioned plug gap. I mentioned they were dealer-specced plugs for the vehicle (the top of the lid even mentions 1.1mm gap). After a few questions (for example: I had cleaned the engine prior to the service) I thought perhaps it was moisture on the coils and let the vehicle stand and dry... Later the afternoon, took it for a nice burn along Solomon Mahlangu to get to temperature and the problems persisted....

So, I pulled the new plugs, and put the old ones back in.... And the vehicle worked a charm.

Investigation shows that, whilst three of the plugs have the properly specced 1.1mm gap (right hand side), the one plug is virtually a dead short (it probably has a .1mm gap)... And so problems solved.

I reckon the take away here, is that never trust the plugs - even those provided by dealerships - and a set of feeler gauges costs less than ZAR100 at Midas (I know - I bought a set this morning)...

Yes. I'm a moron. But this post is merely to (hopefully) prevent somebody else's 30 minute job becoming a full day long one...
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PS: Anthoney mentioned that he always checks plug gap on servicing vehicles. Even on OEM pre-set plugs, he find an incorrect gap set on about 1/3 of the plugs he uses at his workshop...

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:24 pm
by jakeslouw
You didn't bother to eyeball the plug gap before installing? Eish.

By the way, the thickness of your thumbnail is just about the right thickness for most plug gaps........by experience from many years of two stroke bikes, 1000cc Minis and various old Ford engines.........

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:33 pm
by iandvl

Nope - I didn't. Having bought supposedly properly specced plugs - and also never ever having had this issue in the past - I did not think it was necessary... So we learn... [emoji38] [emoji38]

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:45 pm
by Ricof4e

I am sometimes guilty of that too - I assume the plug gaps are set correctly. Live and learn as they say.

Luckily Ian did concern himself with my secondment of buying a new pack of coils [emoji38]

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:51 pm
by AndreasR
Just an observation. It would have been quicker just to take the car to Ant for the service.😂😂😂😂

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
by jakeslouw

I have OFTEN taken plugs out of the box and have observed no plug gap. I have a theory about some malicious SOB at the warehouse packaging department......... :evil:

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:29 pm
by iandvl

Trust me, if I worked at one, this is something I would really consider.... :)

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:38 pm
by Mad Manny
Real engines don't have spark plugs...

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:57 pm
by iandvl
This is a thread about a platkar.

Real 4x4's do not have IFS.

May we agree to disagree ? :)

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:16 pm
by Mad Manny
:D

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:13 pm
by jakeslouw
What are IFS? Independent Free Sex?

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Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:14 pm
by jakeslouw
But Manuel is correct: real engines have glow plugs.

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Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:03 am
by grips
But to make a glow plug engine looks great it needs a turbo. :lol:

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:44 am
by jakeslouw
Absolutely. The bigger the better. And an intercooler or even better, an ice-cooled charge air cooler. And water-methanol injection.

Re: Platkar Service

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:33 pm
by iandvl
I am not so sure. I dislike the clouds of black smoke....

Seriously, I grok petrol motors. Diesels I don't....

But each to their own. :)