4x4 Action Group

BushWacker wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:44 am

This new Defender is completely flat underneath ... like a beetle ...
no diff pumpkins, no evident prop-shaft ( or tunnel) etc ...
so there’s no real underside topography , and that helps with clearance together with its suspension.

This will make for entertaining, and near on impossible recoveries when it lays it's tummy in the mud.

... the ‘ cones’ above the front wheels hubs, evidently for the air suspension units,
would comfortably house vertical spring&Shock configurations
... akin to those that give my old RR Classic very extended and effective vertical travel ...

The plush rubric-cube folding rear seating of the NewDefender are great
if you a street-roaming city-slicker or have been breeding like a Guinea Pig
( ... it even cowers and lowers its rear-end like a proffering lioness ! )
... but all this costly stuff is of limited use for hardly overlanders, off-roaders or agricultural men ...
Etc

... come to think of it, Wessel ... maybe this is the cab you been waiting for ?

Here are a few pictures I scavenged off the net to show the anatomy and enclosed business of this New Defender.
With the bonnet open the engine block seems to disappear under the overhang of the bulkhead yet inside there’s little evident imposing expression of the transmission or drive chain, guess I’m used to massive bell-housings and flywheels!
The mass of the block and transmission are neatly compressed just behind the front axle-line, though I see there a fair amount of business between the back wheels ...
It would be interesting to know where the center of gravity point & axis are though
I see they say lengthwise it’s stable at 45deg ( same ) but side angle limit is now also 45deg !!! ( ... much better...)
... wonder if that’s with up dip wheels relaxed and downdip extended ???
Land Rover say the monocoque chassis/body is of much higher torsional strength than
the old ladder-frames were and their quoted loading specs are much higher ...
I think the back corner pillars confer strength at the rear end and that’s why the opening is a a bit tight for our bulkier members.

‘ Tougher than all the rest ... ‘

“ Land Rover says the Defender’s chassis is three times stiffer than the next best in market,
and can withstand a 6.5-tonne recovery load and 7.0-tonne vertical load through the suspension.
It can support 300kg of weight on its roof when static or 168kg when on the go.
The Defender has a tow rating of 3.5-tonnes. “
.

All of this is immaterial when the plastic Tupperware gets ripped off on the first obstacle or the 19” tyres get slashed by the first sharp rock


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Fender liner is there to reduce fuel consumption on high speed trip to Cape Town & stop a little splash off the road...
I’m sure it’s expendable if not ‘leave@home-able ‘ ... I only put the side-steps on my old Defender ,
when I take young blushing bridesmaids to their first wedding ... ( tell your girls, Kurt ! )
.
... as for tyres ... nothing wrong with BFGs ... also ‘tougher than all the rest’ ...
and it would appear (see attached) one can fit
R18 or R19s ...
The sidewall height of the vehicles I saw
were reasonable and not as low profile as
for preceding Discovery models ...
( ... Kurt , you can press the little red symbols
to what the tyre numbers below mean ... )

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-ro ... nder/2020/

Many of you would have excitedly watched
The New Defender Virtual Launch yesterday.
It comes as no surprise, to me, and I can yet again reiterate :
The New Defender Expedition under Kingsley Holgate will, yet again ,
take 1 or more, Defender 130s to be in attendence ...
Set back, away from the cameras,
Clandestine Guardians of The Force ...
It can only be comforting, in the quietest corners of Darkest Africa
for an expedition to know theres always a Dreadnought or two
protecting and tending The Fleet ...

Mad Manny wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:51 am

If what Bushwacker says above is true (LR refused ASPW a Defender), then Ineos would be crazy to use him to evaluate the Granadier.
I recall an issue where he slated a Tyre or vehicle brand mercilessly after they withdrew their sponsorship.

But aside by side review would be very interesting...

Absolutely there is no love lost between Land Rover and that Toss, I remember when his family first came to South Africa his dad had a two door Range Rover classic and he was still a snot gobbling mucous muncher, they claimed to be the master pioneers of Botswana overland. Unbeknown to them in the very early days of Bechuanaland there was may pioneers before them in early series Land Rovers and Jeep waggoneers.
Land Rover turned him down many times and he would just slate the product at every opportunity. Thank Gott he was exported back to the UK and they got rid of him to Australia and making a bigger fool of himself.

tgwinduna wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:30 pm

Mad Manny wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:51 am

If what Bushwacker says above is true (LR refused ASPW a Defender), then Ineos would be crazy to use him to evaluate the Granadier.
I recall an issue where he slated a Tyre or vehicle brand mercilessly after they withdrew their sponsorship.

But aside by side review would be very interesting...

Absolutely there is no love lost between Land Rover and that Toss, I remember when his family first came to South Africa his dad had a two door Range Rover classic and he was still a snot gobbling mucous muncher, they claimed to be the master pioneers of Botswana overland. Unbeknown to them in the very early days of Bechuanaland there was may pioneers before them in early series Land Rovers and Jeep waggoneers.
Land Rover turned him down many times and he would just slate the product at every opportunity. Thank got he was exported back to the UK and they got rid of him to Australia and making a bigger fool of himself.

Agreed!

ASPW haters. May you all go to hell

I’m not sure if I’ll head down south but I’ll f I do I’m sure as hell I’ll bump into the prick

He’s not that bad, at least he produces quality material unlike some other idiots on YouTube.

He was also very accurate with his review of the Pajero in the dunes.... considering he didn’t know how to operate the Super Select 4x4 system, the fact he overloaded the vehicle, or how to unplug the seatbelt chime under the seat (3 second job)

Mike Nel wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:11 pm

ASPW haters. May you all go to hell

Apparently there is a highway to hell, so even he should be able to make it there...