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New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:07 pm
by Mad Manny
I watched a few YouTube channels discussing the upcoming Prado.
The last One was by TFL Offroad (The Fast Lane).
Either none of there guys understand how Toyota does things, or, they do, but are incapable of explaining it in a way anyone cpuld follow.
So let me try...
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:24 pm
by Mad Manny
Firstly, Lexus, Lexus (which stands for Luxury EXport to the US)...
Does Two things:
1. It makes models that are LEXUS only.
It takes Toyota models, pimps them & sells them under the Lexus banner.
For Example, you got the Land Cruiser 200, the 'Lexus-adised' model was called the Lexus LX500
The Lexus NX, is largely a RAV4.
Now, in the US, they used to get the Land Cruiser 200, as well as the Lexus LX500.
They also had the Sequoia, which was basically a bigger LC200.
Because the Lexus was priced so high in the US,it sold poorly, but the Lexus LX & Sequoia did better.
So, Toyota USA decided that the Land Cruiser 300 would ONLY be sold as the Lexus LX600 there.
They get a new Sequia based on the LC300 too.
But the yanks are bitter that they don't get the 300.
Right, on to the Prado...
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:27 pm
by Mad Manny
In the US they never got the Prado, they got a Lexus-adised version called the Lexus GX460 (460 because it had a 4.6 V8 motor).
Toyota has now launched a 2024 Lexus GX
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:45 pm
by Mad Manny
Obviously, this new 2024 Lexus GX will be 'De - Lexus-adised & become the new Prado.
The Lexus GX (& Prado) runs on the same TNGA-F platform as the LC 300.
This means that the following Toyota vehicles run on the same Platform:
The Lexus LS500 Sedan
The big Sequoia SUV
The LC 300 & the Lexus LX
The Tundra truck.
The Lexus GX & Prado.
The Tacoma (& therefore the next Hilux).
So if the Lexus GX has the same floorpan (& engines) as the LC300/Lexus LX, what will differentiate them?
Well, the GX/Prado will be 94mm shorter, as the floorpan is the same it means the GX/Prado will have shorter overhangs.
In fact, it "looks like" the GX/Prado will be more off-road focused.
Also, whilst the top Prado's will be offered with the same LC300 motors (V6 3.5 turbo Petrol & V6 3.3 Twin Turbo diesel), it "looks like" they will only get an 8 speed auto as opposed to the 10 speed in the LS. 300, LX, Tundra etc.
The other difference, the lower models of the Prado will "probably" get the 2.4 Turbo Petrol (180kW & around 400Nm) & the 2.8GD with 150kW or maybe 165kW.
These, will probably be coupled to 8 speed auto boxes.
There will obviously be Hybrid offerings, but only in the upper models - but I don't care about that.
As the LC300 starts at over R1.6 million & the top Fortuners are touching R1million, I assume the Prado will slot into the R1 mil;lion to R1.6million gap.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:47 pm
by Mad Manny
Finally, the NEW Everest has consistently been compared to the current Prado (150) & in every comparison, the Everest has been adjudged as being better.
Which it probably is.
The new Prado will put an end to that.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:21 pm
by icemanza
Will it still have the old 3.0lt diesel?
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:36 pm
by Mad Manny
You clearly didn't read any of my posts....
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:42 pm
by LX
All I see is my name being mentioned too many times by manny.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:00 am
by icemanza
Mad Manny wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:36 pm
You clearly didn't read any of my posts....
Well. The last model didn't get the Fortuner engine upgrade originally.
Even though it was promised. I do like the looks of the Lexusssss though.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:37 am
by Disco Nic
icemanza wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:21 pm
Will it still have the old 3.0lt diesel?
Hasn’t that been running the GD-6 2.8 for the last 5 years?
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:47 pm
by Mad Manny
Lissie, forgive him, he is stuck in the past ~ still thinks Land Rover makes an offroad vehicle....
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:17 pm
by icemanza
Landrover makes much better off road vehicles than Toyota. They were just not reliable for a while so even then they were off the road.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:42 pm
by Disco Nic
Mad Manny wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:47 pm
Lissie, forgive him, he is stuck in the past ~ still thinks Land Rover makes an offroad vehicle....
I don’t know…
I watched the Aussies do a big SUV Off-Road and towing test… the Defender made the Toyotas look old.
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:36 pm
by Mad Manny
Link please Lissie....
Re: New 2024 Prado
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:40 am
by grips
The Lexus is the better looking one. For some reason with the Prado I always felt that it had the wrong engines. Looking forward to see them with proper engines.
Even though it was promised. I do like the looks of the Lexusssss though.