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Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:24 am
by XJ Junkie
Mad Manny wrote:
In SA Toyota has nearly 200 dealerships, but guys like Renaukt and Haval have less than 60.
Is this because Renault & Haval are more reliable?

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:24 am
by BushWacker
Another article on the Grenadier
from Wheels24


https://m.wheels24.co.za/OffRoad_and_4x ... 20200701-3

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:37 pm
by Apocalypse
I have to say.

I haven't seen the new defender on or off road yet - I like it's looks, but it's 'okay' as opposed to 'I need to rush into the bathroom for a moment'

The Ineos is certainly a lot more to my taste from the pics. Pass the toilet paper!

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:57 am
by grips
What will make or break the Grenadier is dealer networking and spare part availability.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:24 am
by BushWacker
grips wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:57 am
What will make or break the Grenadier is dealer networking and spare part availability.
Agreed ... that is why I believe Toyota motor would be more appropriate,
though I think good marketing for successful sales,
especially in early years, would need help them achieve payback and survive.

Not easy to float a new car now or in next few years...
... as ‘New Defender’ may also find.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:28 am
by XJ Junkie
The problem with Toyota is that they don’t have any suitable engines. Especially diesel.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:20 am
by Mike Nel
XJ Junkie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:28 am
The problem with Toyota is that they don’t have any suitable engines. Especially diesel.
Rubbish and you know it.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:58 am
by Mad Manny
:lol:

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:25 pm
by XJ Junkie
Mike Nel wrote:
XJ Junkie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:28 am
The problem with Toyota is that they don’t have any suitable engines. Especially diesel.
Rubbish and you know it.
Which engines would you suggest, bearing in mind it’s purpose.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:12 pm
by grips
XJ Junkie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:28 am
The problem with Toyota is that they don’t have any suitable engines. Especially diesel.
Let us go the other way round. BMW have no engines that have proven themselves in the African bush.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:26 pm
by KurtG
*proven

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:53 pm
by grips
Dankie Kurt.

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:34 am
by Johannes
Interesting ? BMW is very unreliable ???

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:20 am
by grips
Johannes wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:34 am
Interesting ? BMW is very unreliable ???
Platkarre :lol:

Re: Projekt Grenadier

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:00 pm
by Johannes
True. Just saying :lol: