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PsyPhin wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 11:13 am
Thanks @Disco Nic for keeping a log.
I too have joined the P Series family. Maybe I also need a name for it :D
Awesome News! The 4x4AG POE(S)R Family is growing!

Show us some pictures.

As far as name goes:

Wuhan Warrior (taken)
Shanghai Samurai
Shenyang Stallion
Nanjing Ninja
Maos Revenge
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Buried it. 😎
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PsyPhin wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 11:13 am
Thanks @Disco Nic for keeping a log.
I too have joined the P Series family. Maybe I also need a name for it :D
Congratulations Psyphin...

The Nanking Nerd Mobile?

Kevin's Kong Kab?

Wuhan Wahl?

Bamboo Bakkie?

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All good names:
Guangzhou 4xfou
Beijing 4x4ting
THE DESTROYER
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Triad Trooper.
Ranger Mildtrak
Scorpio Curry Cruiser
A tos-lookin', lunchbox, lipstick and powder puff carryin' home-built trailer

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Disco Nic wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 10:38 pm
Buried it. 😎
I saw on facebook.

Unlucky I wasn't there with the Mahindra to pull you out :lol:
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Ricof4e wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am
Disco Nic wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 10:38 pm
Buried it. 😎
I saw on facebook.

Unlucky I wasn't there with the Mahindra to pull you out :lol:
Ginger was there with his winch.

Unlucky for both of us, as we’d have both been stuck… 😁🤣
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The Mods continue:

The tonneau on the Bakkie was K@K… wasn’t easy to open/close and there was a solid bar over the top of the open tailgate… making loading the Bakkie fairly difficult. Also didn’t like that it flapped around more than Manny when he backpedals… so I got rid of it…

… and fitted a Razorback Alu Canopy. Very happy with the look and feel of the canopy, build quality seems good too. Reinforced corner joints and solid welds everywhere.

Looking at getting some Spotlights next, either 7” or 9” single LED units… Nam Police don’t really mess with cars that have single LED spots… and I also don’t feel like calling Willem to bail me out, because then I’d have to drive home in a Mahindra… 🤷🏽‍♂️
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That looks good. I am also in the process for a solution for the back. I see there is a Razorback in CT only.
Half keen to leave as is but it is not very practical
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PsyPhin wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:05 pm
That looks good. I am also in the process for a solution for the back. I see there is a Razorback in CT only.
Half keen to leave as is but it is not very practical

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Ooh you got the LTD… I hate you.

Also, are you on the Facebook Group? Unofficial P-Series Owners Group. There are heaps of nice canopy options up in Gun Point.
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Disco Nic wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:21 pm
PsyPhin wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:05 pm
That looks good. I am also in the process for a solution for the back. I see there is a Razorback in CT only.
Half keen to leave as is but it is not very practical

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Ooh you got the LTD… I hate you.

Also, are you on the Facebook Group? Unofficial P-Series Owners Group. There are heaps of nice canopy options up in Gun Point.
When I saw the LTD, I had to have it. I saw it before dealer sales team even knew what it was.

But yes keeping my eye on groups to see what the options are. RLD seems to be winning right now but depends on pricing. 2nd hand would be better but few and far between

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PsyPhin wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:33 pm
Disco Nic wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:21 pm
PsyPhin wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:05 pm
That looks good. I am also in the process for a solution for the back. I see there is a Razorback in CT only.
Half keen to leave as is but it is not very practical

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Ooh you got the LTD… I hate you.

Also, are you on the Facebook Group? Unofficial P-Series Owners Group. There are heaps of nice canopy options up in Gun Point.
When I saw the LTD, I had to have it. I saw it before dealer sales team even knew what it was.

But yes keeping my eye on groups to see what the options are. RLD seems to be winning right now but depends on pricing. 2nd hand would be better but few and far between
Got a good deal on trade in for mine… but I am not going through with it now. 🤣 But the LTD is an amazing machine. You need to give us a review when you take it off-road.

You getting a 2” Lift? I’m thinking about it, semi seriously.
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I'll pretty much copy and paste what I have put somewhere else with a few additions:

What is different from P series 4x4 LT:

Switchable 2 Hi 4H 4L instead of the TOD 4x4 system
31.5" tyres (265/65/R18)
New style rims
4.2T Winch with Plasma rope
300W accessory plug in the engine bay
Steel front bumper
Steel Rear Bumper
Rock sliders
Full steel under protection
Snorkel
Front, Rear Diff-Lock
Off-Road Cruise-Control
Off-Road Trail Turn-Assist
Off-Road Thermal Management Mode

Switchable 2Hi 4H 4L
This transfer case is unique to the Limited. A BorgWarner case with old school 2H 4H switchable on the fly and 4L. No longer the TOD BW.
Pretty self explanatory really. Has mud/snow/sand modes which I have yet to try. 8SP ZF gearbox still there.
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31.5" tyres (265/65/R18)
Comes with COOPER Discoverer AT3 4S all round, full sized spare on a steel rim.
I personally swapped mine out with my MAXXIS RAZR 811 as I put a lot of investigation into them and they are very new still.
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4.2T Winch with Plasma rope
It comes with a T-Max EW9500 with 30m of Dyneema rope. Controller plug and hook point sit behind 2 plastic covers that need to be popped out to access, below outlined in red.
The remote plug in point I would look at moving somewhere further up sometime or get an extension.
I spooled it all out and it was very loose so I spooled it all back under tension this time.
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300W accessory plug in the engine bay
Has a plug just by the battery and a switch to enable it in the cab by the interior lights.
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Steel front bumper
Mounted from the chassis by a seemly bolt on extension. Looks quite beefy.
2x recovery points just below bumper on chassis.
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Steel rear bumper
Also chassis mounted but not as beefy as front. Has a plastic bit on the bottom corner which is odd. Will have to either remove that or cut it. It will catch with my dodgy driving.
Has 2x recovery points
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Steel Rock sliders
I would honestly call these strong nerf bars. They will take hits and are much better than a plastic side step, but they are not attached to the chassis and have a mounting bracket that will catch on stuff. I will test sometime with a hi lift jack to see if they can hold the cars weight.
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Full steel under protection
From the front bash plate all the way to the back of the transfer case is steel protection. Even the fuel tank now has a steel cover.
Happily there some protection on the shock in the rear. Not sure if this is common but my H9 was exposed and took hits.
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Front and rear diff-locks
Rear can be activated while moving, front it seems I have to stop.
I cant see what make they are.

Off-Road Cruise-Control
Not sure if this is new, but it is a nice touch. Lowest speed seems to be 4kmh up or down a hill.
If the hill is very steep like Gerts se Klip, it does rev a bit and go a bit faster when the angle increases.

Off-Road Trail Turn-Assist
This locks the wheel on the rear side that you are turning to have a sharper turning circle. The wheelbase being 3240mm is quite large so I am sure it will help. Takes off about 3m off the turning circle.
Apparently the LC200 has a similar thing.

Off-Road Thermal Management Mode
This turns the fans and pumps to a more aggressive but more noisy level for hot days in the 4x4 tracks. Not much else about it in the manual. Is a manual option to turn on in the menu.

Lowest points are rear diff and the protective plating, 245mm.
Suspension seems hard-ish. I like. The Thailand version has Nitro gas shocks but I cannot identify these ones. For the bumper and winch, they must have changed up the suspension.
Fuel by all means has to be more than the standard models but I am getting 9-12l/100km so far. Have opened a fuelly account for pump to pump measurement. Same 2L Diesel motor.

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Congratulations Psy (not the Gungum style Psy).
Hope you keep us updated as well as Nic has done till now...
Especially as we've lost all interest in his Wuhan Warrior now that you've bought the Off Road version...
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Haha well apart from the 4x4 bits, it is still a P series Passenger model.

I bought some extra duct tape today to keep everything together. Holding thumbs.

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