TJ versus Patrol: help me decide
- iandvl
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I chatted with Jakes on the phone about this yesterday too. I've got the history of this vehicle.
It is ex-forum. Well - it had a few Patrol forum owners.
https://patrol4x4.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=5735
It is ex-forum. Well - it had a few Patrol forum owners.
https://patrol4x4.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=5735
Ian de Villiers
Patrol 4.5 GRX
Jurgens XT65 2x0 with Super Select Zero
ORRA: H80
Patrol 4.5 GRX
Jurgens XT65 2x0 with Super Select Zero
ORRA: H80
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@Shane: a Gladdie with Dana 44s would be epic. Sadly, very scarce these days
@Ricoffy: would consider a Second Gen SWB with the 4M40 maybe, even 3.0 6G72 would be fine for a weekend toy.
@Outlaw Shorn: I am well aware of the Patrol benefits, hence why it is on my primary list
@Bugger: not sure whether that was advice or you were just rambling, you sound like BuskWacker
@Grips: please, I'm not looking for a drag strip vehicle. Yes, you have a V8 in a 60 series, blah blah. The Y60 and Y61 were offered with the RD28 and the TD42, among others. The RD28 is a high revving low torque OHC engine that can't pull the skin off a custard. Yet people still get decent performance out of them and they are CHEAP. The TD series are all IDI as we know, yet I ran one for years at over 16psi. Bfreesani runs his on chip and gearbox oil.....I don't need or want HPFP shyte in my vehicle so we are in agreement on the ZD30. The QD32 is the DI mechanical pump version of the TD series and was a bored and stroked TD27. Used in the Cabstar truck. 110kW and 330Nm in stock form. Same figures as the TD42. But as you know: no substitute for cubic inches.........we can debate this, but I just want something reliable that isn't as gutless as a TB42. I'd keep a TB45 as I said, considering it might even have enough power to reach the speed limit. I had 2 x Defender V8s: nothing as sad as watching your fuel gauge drop like a stone and you can't maintain 100km/h on a small uphill.
@Ian: we can have this debate over a beer like the civilised people we are.
@Ricoffy: would consider a Second Gen SWB with the 4M40 maybe, even 3.0 6G72 would be fine for a weekend toy.
@Outlaw Shorn: I am well aware of the Patrol benefits, hence why it is on my primary list
@Bugger: not sure whether that was advice or you were just rambling, you sound like BuskWacker
@Grips: please, I'm not looking for a drag strip vehicle. Yes, you have a V8 in a 60 series, blah blah. The Y60 and Y61 were offered with the RD28 and the TD42, among others. The RD28 is a high revving low torque OHC engine that can't pull the skin off a custard. Yet people still get decent performance out of them and they are CHEAP. The TD series are all IDI as we know, yet I ran one for years at over 16psi. Bfreesani runs his on chip and gearbox oil.....I don't need or want HPFP shyte in my vehicle so we are in agreement on the ZD30. The QD32 is the DI mechanical pump version of the TD series and was a bored and stroked TD27. Used in the Cabstar truck. 110kW and 330Nm in stock form. Same figures as the TD42. But as you know: no substitute for cubic inches.........we can debate this, but I just want something reliable that isn't as gutless as a TB42. I'd keep a TB45 as I said, considering it might even have enough power to reach the speed limit. I had 2 x Defender V8s: nothing as sad as watching your fuel gauge drop like a stone and you can't maintain 100km/h on a small uphill.
@Ian: we can have this debate over a beer like the civilised people we are.
- Mad Manny
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OK,my advice:
Taking out a Banner advert on this here fine Forum would be the best option:
* Cheaper
* Greta Thunburg would approve
* Greater exposure.
* Quicker
* Better longevity
* More Morally correct
* Theft Proof
* More focused
* No Insurance issues
* Less work
* Less admin
All info here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=39
Taking out a Banner advert on this here fine Forum would be the best option:
* Cheaper
* Greta Thunburg would approve
* Greater exposure.
* Quicker
* Better longevity
* More Morally correct
* Theft Proof
* More focused
* No Insurance issues
* Less work
* Less admin
All info here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=39
"No one ever got stuck - in mid air!"
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'
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Jakes,
Forget about those monster litre-eaters …
… buy one of these VDubs off Pierre … for a song.
Paint it , inscribe with branding etc
and put some mega-beer-kegs in the back …
and a loud musical horn:
‘ Eins, zwei, g'suffa ! ‘
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Forget about those monster litre-eaters …
… buy one of these VDubs off Pierre … for a song.
Paint it , inscribe with branding etc
and put some mega-beer-kegs in the back …
and a loud musical horn:
‘ Eins, zwei, g'suffa ! ‘
.
... Famous Fiver VoorLoper ...
... Veni Vidi Vici ...
... Veni Vidi Vici ...
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… true, lol ! …
... Famous Fiver VoorLoper ...
... Veni Vidi Vici ...
... Veni Vidi Vici ...
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I wanted Manny to stick this on Fearless, but he just uttered "Good for you sir"
Ranger Mildtrak
Scorpio Curry Cruiser
A tos-lookin', lunchbox, lipstick and powder puff carryin' home-built trailer
Scorpio Curry Cruiser
A tos-lookin', lunchbox, lipstick and powder puff carryin' home-built trailer
- Redman
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Or.... Hear me out....
Instead of branding a 4x4 for the pub, brand the pub for the 4x4... Here are a few suggestions
Brew a dark beer (Stout) with as low as possible alcohol content. Call it "2-Stroke". You can drink as much as you like without the alcohol working
Another one. An easy to drink lager to be called "Ford Turbo". This should be the cheapest offering, and drinking one will be referred to as "popping".
Instead of branding a 4x4 for the pub, brand the pub for the 4x4... Here are a few suggestions
Brew a dark beer (Stout) with as low as possible alcohol content. Call it "2-Stroke". You can drink as much as you like without the alcohol working
Another one. An easy to drink lager to be called "Ford Turbo". This should be the cheapest offering, and drinking one will be referred to as "popping".
- Shane
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I know, not on your list.
But I'm sitting at work - bored as hell.
The Jeep looks fairly good. New tyres, interior not bad.
The Land Rover has a 22R motor in - so reliability has gone up by 100%.
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But I'm sitting at work - bored as hell.
The Jeep looks fairly good. New tyres, interior not bad.
The Land Rover has a 22R motor in - so reliability has gone up by 100%.
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Good Idea. Go with a "Bi-one get one free"-promotion.Redman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:12 amOr.... Hear me out....
Instead of branding a 4x4 for the pub, brand the pub for the 4x4... Here are a few suggestions
Brew a dark beer (Stout) with as low as possible alcohol content. Call it "2-Stroke". You can drink as much as you like without the alcohol working
Another one. An easy to drink lager to be called "Ford Turbo". This should be the cheapest offering, and drinking one will be referred to as "popping".
Ranger Mildtrak
Scorpio Curry Cruiser
A tos-lookin', lunchbox, lipstick and powder puff carryin' home-built trailer
Scorpio Curry Cruiser
A tos-lookin', lunchbox, lipstick and powder puff carryin' home-built trailer