4x4 Fortune tellers: When will Cruiser 200 prices drop?
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… generally Im not too fussed
though I do keep a small chip or two
safely under my drivers seat …
though I do keep a small chip or two
safely under my drivers seat …
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The 3.3 V6 in the 300 is unproven. It’ll take a year or so to prove itself and for Toyota to sort out any gremlins, if there are any.
The 200 will therefore hold value for a good few years still.
My 200 is staying put.
The 200 will therefore hold value for a good few years still.
My 200 is staying put.
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Currently Cruiser 200's are selling for R150k over book value.
Let's monitor and see...
Let's monitor and see...
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… modern cars , just packets of chips …
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Chip shortage problem aint over yet …
“ Euro Auto Registrations Plunge 17% In November,
Post Worst Number Since Data Collection Began In 1993 … “
Bloomberg/Euro Auto Manuf. Assoc
“ Euro Auto Registrations Plunge 17% In November,
Post Worst Number Since Data Collection Began In 1993 … “
Bloomberg/Euro Auto Manuf. Assoc
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These drivers of high prices, the so called 'Covid Tax' caused by a decline of new vehicles entering the market due to pointless Lock Downs & further exacerbated by the resultant chip shortage will only begin to gradually be reversed during the later half of 2022 & into 2023...
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… only by “ 2022 & into 2023 !” ….
… well , Wessel will have sold the 200 by then …
… “ kerk, werk & re-circ ! “
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Well to add my bit, having had a meeting with my direct contact at Toyota factory I can confirm, Toyota is far better off than the other manufacturers, its not just affecting Toyota, they made provision, but it still caught them as well.
Look at the top 30 car sales, Toyota still represent five models sold in the top 10,
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Toyota retained its domestic market leadership last month with 11,892 sales, with the newly launched Corolla Cross becoming SA’s third most popular vehicle in its first month.
Toyota was followed by VW Group (5,498), Suzuki Auto (3,082), Hyundai (2,869), Nissan (2,328), Ford (2,245), Isuzu (2,157), Renault (2,081), Kia (2,062), and Haval Motors (1,730) rounding out the top 10.
SA’s top-selling new vehicles — November 2021
Toyota Hilux — 2,558
Toyota Hi-Ace — 1,763
Toyota Corolla Cross — 1,757
Isuzu D-Max — 1,666
VW Polo Vivo — 1,608
Toyota Starlet — 1,477
VW Polo — 1,221
Ford Ranger — 1,165
Suzuki S-Presso — 926
Toyota Agya — 911
Renault Kwid — 876
Suzuki Swift — 859
VW T-Cross — 838
Kia Picanto — 729
Renault Triber — 719
Toyota Fortuner — 701
Toyota Urban Cruiser — 699
VW Polo Sedan — 669
GWM P Series - 655
Ford EcoSport — 630
Nissan Navara — 617
Nissan NP200 — 589
Hyundai Atos — 551
Hyundai Creta — 525
Toyota Corolla Quest — 517
Mahindra Scorpio Pik Up — 506
Haval Jolion — 468
Hyundai Grand i10 — 444
Kia Sonet — 439
Toyota Rumion — 375"
When last have you driven past the Motor Via , Bond store, and holding area. in the good days it was jam packed full. Lately I doubt if a third of the space is filled.
Bottom line its very serious, and it affects the entire industry.
Look at the top 30 car sales, Toyota still represent five models sold in the top 10,
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Toyota retained its domestic market leadership last month with 11,892 sales, with the newly launched Corolla Cross becoming SA’s third most popular vehicle in its first month.
Toyota was followed by VW Group (5,498), Suzuki Auto (3,082), Hyundai (2,869), Nissan (2,328), Ford (2,245), Isuzu (2,157), Renault (2,081), Kia (2,062), and Haval Motors (1,730) rounding out the top 10.
SA’s top-selling new vehicles — November 2021
Toyota Hilux — 2,558
Toyota Hi-Ace — 1,763
Toyota Corolla Cross — 1,757
Isuzu D-Max — 1,666
VW Polo Vivo — 1,608
Toyota Starlet — 1,477
VW Polo — 1,221
Ford Ranger — 1,165
Suzuki S-Presso — 926
Toyota Agya — 911
Renault Kwid — 876
Suzuki Swift — 859
VW T-Cross — 838
Kia Picanto — 729
Renault Triber — 719
Toyota Fortuner — 701
Toyota Urban Cruiser — 699
VW Polo Sedan — 669
GWM P Series - 655
Ford EcoSport — 630
Nissan Navara — 617
Nissan NP200 — 589
Hyundai Atos — 551
Hyundai Creta — 525
Toyota Corolla Quest — 517
Mahindra Scorpio Pik Up — 506
Haval Jolion — 468
Hyundai Grand i10 — 444
Kia Sonet — 439
Toyota Rumion — 375"
When last have you driven past the Motor Via , Bond store, and holding area. in the good days it was jam packed full. Lately I doubt if a third of the space is filled.
Bottom line its very serious, and it affects the entire industry.
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2013 Suzuki Jimny, Ratel (larger than life),
2023 Toyota Starlet xr auto,
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… yes, the situation is concerning.
Seems to have more affected the availability
of the quality vehicles than the common herd …
I do also note,
that VW Polo versions are seperately reported:
VW Polo Vivo — 1,608
VW Polo — ……. 1,221
VW Polo Sedan — 669
Seems to have more affected the availability
of the quality vehicles than the common herd …
I do also note,
that VW Polo versions are seperately reported:
VW Polo Vivo — 1,608
VW Polo — ……. 1,221
VW Polo Sedan — 669
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