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by Johannes » Fri May 18, 2018 12:45 pm
Oppies3800 wrote: ↑ Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm
XJ Junkie wrote: Ricoffy wrote:
Wat bedoel jy hiermee?
Ek wil ook weet
Did not think it will be this difficult to understand...
No matter what the specs etc. It stays a Renault...
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Don't get me wrong ! But i think Renault has got a long way to go , to earn the trust of farmers and older people ! That's what i gathered , just speaking to a few farmers.
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by XJ Junkie » Sat May 19, 2018 5:34 pm
Jeanvn wrote:
A bit, but the better flex the bakkies has in the rear the better they will do off road.
So makes a little bit of sense as well.
Precisely.
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by XJ Junkie » Sat May 19, 2018 5:49 pm
ThysleRoux wrote: Independent suspension in roadgoing vehicles restricts articulation much more than leaf springs do.
This really does depend on which vehicles are being compared.
But the topic under discussion relates to the rear axle of bakkies & how they are sprung. They route they’ve gone with the Alaskan is pretty much the same as a solid axled SUV
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by XJ Junkie » Sat May 19, 2018 7:16 pm
Ricoffy wrote:
I don't know about the Alaskan, but this is a pic of the Navara's rear wheel articulation vs the new Hilux:
BTW. I just saw this same photo in an article. The Navara in the picture is a Kingcab with leaf springs, not coil spring.
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by Mike Nel » Sun May 20, 2018 8:24 am
The articulation on the bakkie above is very good for a car straight from the showroom floor
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by Mad Manny » Sun May 20, 2018 10:15 am
Vehicles with Traction Control AND Diff Lock:
In many basic bakkies with TC & DL, if you push the Diff Lock knob the TC automatically cancels.
This is because you don't need TC (ABS in reverse)when the DL is on.
In fact, in some vehicles the ABS cancels too.
So basically, pressing DL cancells all Electronic Brake interventions.
The Alaskan, apparently, still allows the FRONT TC to work if you press the rear DL button.
This effectively gives the Alaskan a de facto 3 Diff Lock system (front, centre & rear).
I don't want to sully Neil's Alaskan Thread, so I've started a new Thread to discuss Traction Systems in various 4x4's...
Here is a Link to the TC Thread:
http://www.4x4ag.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=126
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by XJ Junkie » Sun May 20, 2018 11:26 am
Mad Manny wrote:
The Alaskan, apparently, still allows the FRONT TC to work if you press the rear DL button.
This effectively gives the Alaskan a de facto 3 Diff Lock system (front, centre & rear).
It’s only a matter of time before all of the more established bakkies will adopt the same.
But it’s good to see Renault taking the lead as usual.
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by BushWacker » Sun May 20, 2018 12:37 pm
I think LRvr ( who developed TC
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made, in the late Disco 2 s, system where
one could select front TC and rear axle difflock
with center diff off ...
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by XJ Junkie » Sun May 20, 2018 3:05 pm
It was also Land Rover who were first to replace leaf springs in favour of coils on their bakkies.
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by Oppies3800 » Wed May 23, 2018 7:41 am
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑ Sun May 20, 2018 3:05 pm
It was also Land Rover who were first to replace leaf springs in favour of coils on their bakkies.
That is the same people that cannot build a reliable crank.
How could we trust them?
Could this be sarcasm?
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by ThysleRoux » Wed May 23, 2018 10:42 am
Oppies3800 wrote: ↑ Wed May 23, 2018 7:41 am
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑ Sun May 20, 2018 3:05 pm
It was also Land Rover who were first to replace leaf springs in favour of coils on their bakkies.
That is the same people that cannot build a reliable crank.
How could we trust them?
That crank was designed by Peugeot - never trust the Frogs ......................
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by XJ Junkie » Wed May 23, 2018 10:54 am
ThysleRoux wrote:
That crank was designed by Peugeot - never trust the Frogs ......................
Guess which manufacturer trusts the Frogs the most? .........Toyota.
They have a 50/50 partnership with the Citroen C1 (Sitroon for the Afrikaans people), Peugeot 107 & the Toyota Aygo (Ag-no for the Afrikaans people).
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by ThysleRoux » Wed May 23, 2018 11:33 am
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑ Wed May 23, 2018 10:54 am
ThysleRoux wrote:
That crank was designed by Peugeot - never trust the Frogs ......................
Guess which manufacturer trusts the Frogs the most? .........Toyota.
They have a 50/50 partnership with the Citroen C1 (Sitroon for the Afrikaans people), Peugeot 107 & the Toyota Aygo (Ag-no for the Afrikaans people).
I rest my case
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by Oppies3800 » Wed May 23, 2018 2:51 pm
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑ Wed May 23, 2018 10:54 am
ThysleRoux wrote:
That crank was designed by Peugeot - never trust the Frogs ......................
Guess which manufacturer trusts the Frogs the most? .........Toyota.
They have a 50/50 partnership with the Citroen C1 (Sitroon for the Afrikaans people), Peugeot 107 & the Toyota Aygo (Ag-no for the Afrikaans people).
Yet, no catastrophic failures to speak of
Could this be sarcasm?
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by BushWacker » Wed May 23, 2018 3:35 pm
... and Land Rover developed the first SUV
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