Who's is the biggest?

[Mad Manny]

Vehicles keep getting bigger.
The bigger the better? or is it?
On a trail - big means beached or bashed.
Overlanding, big is nice, but fitting under trees or driving in existing tracks can be difficult.

Personally, I feel our vehicles. particularly Double Cab Bakkies (the most popular model) are starting to get too big.

The current Isuzu KB-6/D-Max in SA is 5295mm long & 1860mm long.

My daily drive is the old KB5 & it is significantly smaller that the KB-6/D-max.

To me, the current D-Max is a tad too big & I'd not want to go any bigger.

Kurt & I drew up a system a few years back called the 'Gerber' system, it took Length (Excluding Tow Bar) x Width (excluding mirrors) to give a 'Shadow area' in m2...

To give you an idea, the World Famous Fearless has a Shadow area of 8.66m2.
A Land Cruiser 200, by comparison, has a shadow area of 9.75m2

So, clearly anything over 9m2 is BIG... but what if vehicles start breaking 10m2?

[Mad Manny]

Fearless 4705mm x 1840mm
8.66m2

Land Cruiser 200 4950mm x 1970mm
9.75mm

Current KB-6/D-Max 5295mm x 1860mm
9.85mm

2021 D-Max 5285mm x 1870mm
9.88mm

Current Hilux GD 5335mm x 1855mm
9.90m2

Ford Ranger (not the Raptor) 5354mm x 1860mm
9.96mm

VW Amarok 5254mm x 1944mm
10.21mm

New GWM P-Series 5410mm x 1934mm
10.45m2 !!!

[Mad Manny]

For Chas,

Land Rover Defender 110 4785mm x 1790mm
8.66m2

New Defender 110 4758mm x 2008mm
9.55mm

Land Rover Defender 130 5063mm x 1790mm
10.07m2

[Mad Manny]

Glad Isuzu has kept is size growth under control.
Notice how the new vehicles are getting wider, rather than longer...

[Renier_c]

And the H3?

[Renier_c]

Old Defender 110 is the same size as Fearless! Wow

[Mad Manny]

And the H3?

Hummer H3 4778mm x 1897mm
9.06m2

Shorter & Narrower than a Disco4, in fact, the H3 is only 11cm longer than an FJ Cruiser & is slightly narrower...

[HenriSteyn]

Pajero LWB
4,900x1,875 = 9,187
She is Beeeg!

[Mad Manny]

One of the BIGGEST SUV's you can buy is the Lincoln Navigator.
5647mm x 2.030mm = 11.45m2 shadow,

[Mad Manny]

I'd say, stick to something under 2.00m wide (excl mirrors) & with a shadow of under 10.0m2...

[Mike Nel]

The UTE’s. Are they measured with or without canopies?

[Mad Manny]

Obviously without canopies.
Excludes Mirrors.
Excludes Tow bar.

But most canopies would make no difference to the Length & Width.

[Mike Nel]

You didn’t take height into consideration

[Mad Manny]

Area is Length x Width.

Volume is Length x Width x Height.

[KurtG]

You didn’t take height into consideration

Dumbass


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