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Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 pm
by Mad Manny
Yip! I'm just inches away from a 69!

Completed my 68th different 4x4 Outing today (ito the UTM rules).

69 is next.

Then it's only 31 to go before I break 100!

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:49 pm
by Mad Manny
The last two (67 & 68) I did this December: Bass Lake on 23 December & Ground Zero at Pecan Park today.

Here's the list...


2010
1. Halfway Toyota 4x4 Training Silvermine (Near Maropeng)
2011 - 2016
2. Berakah (5 times)
3. Hennops (Many times)
4. Hennops Pride (3 times)
5. De Wildt (Over 12 times)
6. Att Se Gat (A few times, 4 - 6)
7. Moegatle (Many times)
8. Diggers Hole (Forum 5th Birthday)
9. Bosvark/All Out Africa/Hobby Park (once or twice per name)
10. Brakkenduine (@ 1st NGTG)
11. DroogeHeuwel - Randfontein (3 times)
12. Jobedi (Twice)
13. Donkerpoort 4x4 (twice)
14. Tussen Twee Rivieren (2nd NGTG @ Gariep)
15. Rebellie - Clarens (twice)
16. Moolmanshoek
17. Meiringskloof
18. Atlantis Dunes
19. 3 Provinces - Main Trail (twice, including Hells Hoogte)
20. Waterford (Groblershoop NC) Whooooopah
21. Boegoebergpas (Groblershoop NC) Whooooopah
22. Timed Obstacle Course at Boegoeberg Dam @ Whooooopah 4
23. Skid Pan Event @ Zwartkops
24. Wolwekloof - Trail
25. WolweKloof - Bridgestone Challenge
26. Spookspruit - Bridgestone Challenge
27. McCarthy Rhinopark - Bridgestone Challenge
28. Sandwani - Bridgestone Challenge
29. Sandwani - Trail
30. Riverwild (Nelspruit)
31. Nzikazi River (Kruger Gate)
32. Piet Se Pad (MP/Swazi border)
33. Iquana Track & Trail Camping
34. River Trip - Molotosi - Letaba Camping
35. Olifantsrivier Lodge 4x4 Event
36. Leeuenskloof (Near Harties) – Bridgestone Challenge
37. Rust De Winter - Mountain Trail Camping
38. Base4 (4WDCSA Home Track) AAWDC Fun Day & RFAD 4x4 Day
39. Serendipity
40. Kungwini Camping
41. Groenkloof with Suzuki 4x4
42. Buffalo Gorge Camping
43. The Wedge - Beyer’s Naude Dr
44. Berg & Bush GTG (De Wildt to Karee Krans) w/Trailer 3 - 5 June 2016 Camping
2017
45. Piesangkloof (Mooinooi) - 14 April 2017
46. In The Gorge/Lost Horizons (Hekpoort) - 22 April 2017
47. Tshekweni in Dinokeng for Bridgestone - 21 May 2017 Camping
48. Chimes (c Gualter) - 28 May 2017
49. Carnage Canyon Supporter/Spectator 16 - 18 June 2017 (L/R Camping ).
50. Beestekraal 4x4 North West - 2 July 2017
51. DeVoetPadKloof for Bridgestone Challenge - 22 July 2017 Camping
52. Lekoa Lodge for Bridgestone Nite Challenge - 23 September 2017 Camping
53. Malonjeni Guest Farm for Bridgestone Final - 25 November 2017 Camping
54. Berg En Rivier Bronkhorstspruit - 2 December 2017 Camping
55. BosvarkS Diggers Hole (See #7) Cullinan - 30 December 2017
2018
56. Barnardsvlei 4x4AG AGM – 3 March 2018
57. Lundean’s Nek - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
58. Naude’s Nek- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
59. Ben McDhui - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
60. Carlisle Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
61. Bastervoedpadkloof Pass- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
62. Tennahead Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
63. Pitseng Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
64. Ongeluksnek Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
65. Pot Rivier Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
66. Old Mill Drift Pass - 4x4AG Family Weekend – 23 September 2018
67. Bass Lake – 23 December 2018
68. Ground Zero @ Pecan Park – 29 December 2018
2019
69.

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:50 am
by Martin de Jager
Well done Manny,

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:12 am
by Mad Manny
I hope to get to 101 by the end of 2021 - but it's getting increasingly difficult to find one's I haven't done before....

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:55 pm
by Oppies3800
Lots in the Western Cape you haven't done

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Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:05 am
by Mike Nel
Western Cape roads are littered with Fortuners. We don’t need another one

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:54 pm
by Chris Stoffel
In five years I have done only 13 tracks. That is not adequate. It is in fact very slapgat.
It would be nice to know how many tracks the posters have done?
Yes?

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:54 am
by Hedgehog
I think what Manny is stating is very impressive, and is truly quite an achievement. :|

But, I have one issue, and it is how Manny is defining as a trail or route..or "outing" :?

I first noticed it when Gualtar posted on his 50 trails/ routes and thought it funny but harmless.
But, now I think it should be taken a bit more seriously
We, or the club, should maybe define a 4x4 trail or route or "outing" before we get a bit crazy here

Take the following for example:
57. Lundean’s Nek - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
58. Naude’s Nek- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
59. Ben McDhui - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
60. Carlisle Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
61. Bastervoedpadkloof Pass- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
62. Tennahead Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
63. Pitseng Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
64. Ongeluksnek Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
65. Pot Rivier Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
These above, are 9 routes, but only one outing.... ??? And not really all require 4x4 do they?

And the following:
24. Wolwekloof - Trail
25. WolweKloof - Bridgestone Challenge
These are two outings but the same trail... ??? Yet he mentions that he did other trails more than once but only listed them once...???
2. Berakah (5 times)
3. Hennops (Many times)
4. Hennops Pride (3 times)
5. De Wildt (Over 12 times)
So, aren't they also 4x4 outings....???

Also, is being a spectator now deemed a 4x4 outing??
49. Carnage Canyon Supporter/Spectator 16 - 18 June 2017 (L/R Camping ).

I dont know, but if I have to compile a similar list going on these, inconsistent, parameters, then I could easily be far more than 69.

If I have to list every pass I have driven and every 4x4 event that I have attended... :P

#Let'sgetdefinitive :)

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:18 am
by Mad Manny
GREAT idea Hedgehog!

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:21 am
by Mad Manny
In the FIRST post of this Thread I said:
Mad Manny wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 pm
Yip! I'm just inches away from a 69!

Completed my 68th different 4x4 Outing today (ito the UTM rules).

69 is next.

Then it's only 31 to go before I break 100!
Here are the UTM Rules, as published, here, on this Forum, in April, for all to see:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=73

Read Post #4...

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:42 am
by Hedgehog
Mad Manny wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:21 am
In the FIRST post of this Thread I said:
Mad Manny wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 pm
Yip! I'm just inches away from a 69!

Completed my 68th different 4x4 Outing today (ito the UTM rules).

69 is next.

Then it's only 31 to go before I break 100!
Here are the UTM Rules, as published, here, on this Forum, in April, for all to see:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=73

Read Post #4...
Here are the rules... posted by yourself.. and what you just just instructed me to read. Now see my highlighted points:
IV. Cento e Um Desafios
101 Events (Trails/Trips/Challenges)
The 101 Events Challenge is simple, you must complete 101 Events (Trails/Trips/Challenges), where you were the principle driver, at any time in your lifetime.

Please Note: You can only list a place ONCE, no matter how many times you have done it.
Between Hennops, De Wildt, Moegatle & Att Se Gat I have over 25 visits. But those will only count as 4 'venues'.

The rest of the rules are EXACTLY the same as for Cinquenta Desafios

How it Works:
1. Complete the online registration form on [www.4x4actiongroup.co.za, click on Event Calendar]
2. Pay the Registration Fee of R101.00 using your name, followed by 101 (Cento e Um) as the reference.
3. Submit your evidence & documentation [madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za (drop the mad)].
4. The competitor will then be sent a Competitor Number.
5. Once 101 are completed, it will be announced & a Certificate will be issued.
So, if you did not DRIVE it cannot be listed, and you cannot list one place more than once, regardless of the kind of event..

But I digress, the passes thingy falls under the overlanding rules, and I was mistaken in that I missed the
The rest of the rules are EXACTLY the same as for Cinquenta Desafios
rule.... my bad... :D

But... you have not quite followed them either

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:06 pm
by Mike Nel
Some valid points raised and that’s why I am comping my list as follows:

- Trails
- Overlanding
- Passes
- Parks

I however think I should stick with Trails and Overlanding and leave out Passes and Parks

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:30 am
by Johannes
Hedgehog wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:54 am
I think what Manny is stating is very impressive, and is truly quite an achievement. :|

But, I have one issue, and it is how Manny is defining as a trail or route..or "outing" :?

I first noticed it when Gualtar posted on his 50 trails/ routes and thought it funny but harmless.
But, now I think it should be taken a bit more seriously
We, or the club, should maybe define a 4x4 trail or route or "outing" before we get a bit crazy here

Take the following for example:
57. Lundean’s Nek - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
58. Naude’s Nek- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
59. Ben McDhui - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
60. Carlisle Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
61. Bastervoedpadkloof Pass- 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
62. Tennahead Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
63. Pitseng Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
64. Ongeluksnek Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
65. Pot Rivier Pass - 4x4AG 10 Passes Tour – 30 April – 1 May 2018
These above, are 9 routes, but only one outing.... ??? And not really all require 4x4 do they?

And the following:
24. Wolwekloof - Trail
25. WolweKloof - Bridgestone Challenge
These are two outings but the same trail... ??? Yet he mentions that he did other trails more than once but only listed them once...???
2. Berakah (5 times)
3. Hennops (Many times)
4. Hennops Pride (3 times)
5. De Wildt (Over 12 times)
So, aren't they also 4x4 outings....???

Also, is being a spectator now also deemed a 4x4 outing??
49. Carnage Canyon Supporter/Spectator 16 - 18 June 2017 (L/R Camping ).

I dont know, but if I have to compile a similar list going on these, inconsistent, parameters, then I could easily be far more than 69.

If I have to list every pass I have driven and every 4x4 event that I have attended... :P

#Let'sgetdefinitive :)
Good point .

Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:14 am
by Mad Manny
You guys are missing the point.
I started Ultimate Trail Master to encourage guys to get behind the wheel, engage Low Range & enjoy the Great Outdoors.
It was never intended to withstand nitpicking.

Maybe a guy has 82 & another guy, who has done more, is on 78 - but does that really matter?
Both guys are far better than 99.995% of 4x4 owners who have done Zero.

Only 17 people have done 50+ trails & have become UTM Cinquenta Conquistadors.
There is only ONE UTM Dos Sete Diablos Conquistador.


Re: Mad Manny about to do 69

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:58 am
by Hedgehog
Mad Manny wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:14 am
You guys are missing the point.
I started Ultimate Trail Master to encourage guys to get behind the wheel, engage Low Range & enjoy the Great Outdoors.
It was never intended to withstand nitpicking.

Maybe a guy has 82 & another guy, who has done more, is on 78 - but does that really matter?
Both guys are far better than 99.995% of 4x4 owners who have done Zero.

Only 17 people have done 50+ trails & have become UTM Cinquenta Conquistadors.
There is only ONE UTM Dos Sete Diablos Conquistador.

Fair point Manny and I agree with the reasoning of getting the guys to see their 4x4 outings as an achievement, because that is what it is lately.
But we cannot degrade the achievement of the
only ONE UTM Dos Sete Diablos Conquistador.
with letting the rules slide.. Nitpicking should be welcomed, to preserve the trophy value of these achievements.

We dont want them to list things like "meeting Manny at Hogshead for a beer" as an outing do we? :P :D (I suppose if you leave on all fours, and crawl home then that is exactly what it is :lol: )

We must keep things to a certain standard, a valid "yardstick" if I may, and not let it become a matter of drafting a list that does not get tested, but rather let it be something respectable, something that can pass muster...
Let it remain an achievement that can be saluted by us.. 8-)

And to keep it like that, to keep the reputation of these "achievements", only 3 rules must be enforced in my opinion:
  • You MUST be the driver in the outing.
    It must have required you to go off the tar.
    You MUST have completed the event/outing
That's just my opinion, and the reasoning I apply in my lists

But kudos to you and the team for the initiative, I think its great!