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I see vehicle loans are up to 96 months now? With a residual? How is that sustainable?

As far as I knows we are going to see the Lexus with the 2.8 only. I might be wrong however.

Mad Manny wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:15 pm

Jake's, you actually never own the vehicle, it's a perpetual. Lease and every few years they exchange the vehicle...

I just can't do that at my age. In fact, I'd say that is borderline criminal from any registered credit provider. Lease should be reserved for companies with fleets or for proper independent consultants. It's a false construct to offer that to normally employed, private people, it something that props up all the role players (vehicle manufacturers, dealers, and banks) at the expense of decent financial advice to consumers.

But we're vehicle befok in ZA, everybody wants the latest and greatest and damn the budget.
Yet there are literally MILLIONS of vehicles lying in second hand lots at stupidly inflated prices. Again, only the banks and the dealers win.

The bubble, like the housing market in the US, will burst.

grips wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:26 am

As far as I knows we are going to see the Lexus with the 2.8 only. I might be wrong however.

In that case, they are wasting their time bringing it in.
But this was Cars.co.za speculation, TSA hasn't said it's coming.

Would be a better idea for TSA to offer us the Prado with the USA's 2.4 Turbo Petrol.
Better outputs than the old V6 4.0 and much lighter on fuel.

New Ford Territory:
Ford used to sell the Australian Territory here - big, 4.0 straight 6 with RWD or AWD.
Then they discountinued it & replaced it with the Everest.

Well Ford has relaunched a Territory again, but it is nothing like the old ladder frame vehicle of long ago.
The new one is more like an X-Trail.

In fact, it isnt even a Ford...

The Territory is manufactured in Nanchang by Jiangling Motors Co (JMC) as part of a joint venture between Ford and the Chinese manufacturer. In its home market, the Territory is badged as the Equator Sport and the model shares underpinnings with the Yusheng S330, a later iteration of the Landwind X7

So it's a JMC Yusheng S330...

"So it's a JMC Yusheng S330..."

So we won't talk about Toyota : the Celerio rebranded as the Vitz, the Baleno rehashed as the Starlet and the Ertiga becoming the Rumion – along with the Grand Vitara-based Urban Cruiser?

I read a motoring article that there are 20 "new" model vehicles hitting our shores in these next 6 months. And they list them too. 8 replacement and 12 brand new makes, mostly Chinese

How will so many dealerships be set up and do quality work?

And how long will this be sustainable?

I feel for the less informed potential buyers.

The argument is actually how many CURRENT dealers do quality work?

Mitsu?
Nissan?
etc

I stopped buying Nissans when I realised the average Nissan workshop couldn't even successfully boil water at tea time.

jakeslouw wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:48 pm

"So it's a JMC Yusheng S330..."

So we won't talk about Toyota : the Celerio rebranded as the Vitz, the Baleno rehashed as the Starlet and the Ertiga becoming the Rumion – along with the Grand Vitara-based Urban Cruiser?

All Toyotas below the Corolla Cross are Suzukis.
The Agya was a rebadged Diahatsu.

But I'd rather buy a rebadged Suzuki than some JMC SUV badged as a R700k Frod...