4x4 Action Group

I have searched the interwebs without much success.

I have a Frontrunner roofrack on my GD6 Revo. Apparrantly max load rating is 150kg's for the roof rack.

However...

I have read up that the max one should load is 75kg's for Fords.

Can I assume that my Hilux would be similar?

Would this include the weight of the roof rack?

I want to load 4 - 6 ammo crates - mostly filled with groceries etc.

Not sure what the weight would be but probably around 10kg/crate.

I understand the principles of being top heavy, but this would not be for serious 4x4ing trips.

Don't want to damage the roof!

Any advice?

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You'll have to find the Toyota spec for the Hilux, you cannot compare different models, never mind different brands

Shane wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:16 pm

Would this include the weight of the roof rack?

Yes, all weight

I had a roof top tent on my D4D Tuna, on a Frontrunner RR and a water tank and it was perfect, you can feel the extra weight but I never felt unsafe or that it was dangerous...

Putting fruit and veg in an ammo box on the roof is a very good way of turning it into compost in short order!


the actual roof load is determined by the manufacturer - and don't be surprised if they suggest zero. Most vehicles are not made to have a load on the roof at all, and the manufacturer will simply not support fitting one at all, and if it causes damage, they won't be liable.

The NRTA makes the following provisions however:

! - you may not transport live animals or people on the roof rack
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2 - unless it's a bicycle , the load on the roof may not exceed half the height of the vehicle - which is interesting when one adds in high canopies and lift kits and bigger tyres.... it's kinda not really very clear !

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3 - This is for calculating mass, so it's a bit vague, not a regulation as such. It is taken that the load should be 75kg/sqm, in the same way that each person is assumed to be 68kg. but it's not a regulation,

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Obviously, you may then not exceed the mass loads on axle and overall - and often those limits are not very high.

Ideally keep the weight low!

Shane, this is what you end up with the moment you go with a drawer system in a loadbin.

A roof rack.

Because you don't have space in the loadbin to use it as it was intended.

Jy kan maar net sowel 'n paar hoenderhokke op jou dak nou vasmaak

@Ricoffy - [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] I hear you! I'm just looking at all my options! The wheel arches make loading bulky objects like cooler boxes (filled with game) a little difficult. Especially when you have long objects like rifles that also need to be loaded!

Needles to say the excercise was (relatively) cheap! So through trial and error I will certainly find the best system.

@Apoc - thanks for the info - will chew it over.

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Shane, watch this:

https://youtu.be/r32xd9z4SZ4

Thanks Kurt! This was helpfull !!!

KurtG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:58 pm

https://youtu.be/r32xd9z4SZ4

Thanks Kurt, I never knew about the on road and off road weights, good to learn something

What’s worse is that the Rhino Rack is installed with pop rivets, that’s un-effing-believable.

How the hell can an off-road company design and manufacture a product that takes a lot of weight and wind forces etc. and think that a few pop rivets will hold it in place. Bloody stupid if you ask me.

Rhino Rack is an Australian-based company which has been in South Africa since 2006, and produces a large range of racks to suit most family cars and 4x4s. The racks come in two ranges, including a lightweight alloy range and a heavier-duty Pioneer range which is suitable for off-road use.

A lifetime warranty is offered on most models, and Ford offers the racks as official accessories from dealers. A variety of sizes is available, from 1mx1m square units to full roof setups, which justifies the wide weight-range.

Suitable for: Most 4x4s
Load capacity: 100-150kg
Materials used: Aluminium
Weight: 10-25kg
Construction: Bolted and riveted

Australian - that explains it all [emoji2371]

The maximum load you can put on the roof is the weight of the vehicle. If you turn the car on it's roof gently the roof don't collapse at all. If you have doubt turn your vehicle over and see for yourself. But do it on the lawn.

I take it this ' GD6 Revo' thing has no roof gutters,
or does it ?

Chas... a GD6 Revo is, to the uninformed, is also know as 'the current Hilux'...

My old man bought my sister a Hi-lux in the early '70s Manny and it looked nothing like Shane's cab.
It was a station wagon with hand gearchange and almost less suspension than a jeep...
So my question is :
What is the enduring characteristic of the Hilux, if any, or is it it a pointless name so Shane etc. refer to a 'GD6 Revo' etc ?

P.S. I think the early Hi-Lux's had roof gutters ...