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Chas, Hilux is a name like Defender.
Revo was the name used in other markets to distinguish models.
So you had the Hilux 1st Gen, or Hilux SFA (last SFA) or Hilux Vigo or Hilux Revo etc.

In much the same way you had a Series I or Series II or Series III or Defender or Puma or...
'New-Piece-of-crap-that-has-nothing-Defender-in-it-except-the-name'.

Clear?
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Manny, you are going to give Chas an epileptic attack with all those hyphens.
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Mad Manny wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:48 pm
Chas, Hilux is a name like Defender.
Revo was the name used in other markets to distinguish models.
So you had the Hilux 1st Gen, or Hilux SFA (last SFA) or Hilux Vigo or Hilux Revo etc.

In much the same way you had a Series I or Series II or Series III or Defender or Puma or...
'New-Piece-of-crap-that-has-nothing-Defender-in-it-except-the-name'.

Clear?
... you bring up a relevant thing here ...

... from a Series 1 to a Defender Puma ,
there were persisting typical characteristics ...
asp. in the bodywork but also across the span,
and the progressive evolution over time...
One could see ones looking at a family progression.

NO SUCH THING WITH HILUXs

Comprendez?

P.S. I thought a 'GD6 Revo' was a thing from 'Star Wars' !
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Hilux is the name Toyota use for their Pick Up in all markets except the US where it is Tacoma.
All Hiluxes are Toyota pick ups. Buyt yes, they evolvedover the years. If the Defender had evolved it would have survived.

The Taro was a Hilux with a VW badge. It made VW think they could build a Pick Up.
The Amarok proved they can't.
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What is a hand gear change? A manual transmission?
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KurtG wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:22 pm
What is a hand gear change? A manual transmission?
... Kurt ... you too young to Know,
Forgive me!
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... anyway, many years ago, the gear change stick,
was on the steering column!
(... like your indicator lever, Kurt!)
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So it’s a manual? You use your hand like in modern vehicles like the “ahead of its time” Volkswagen Touran? Good to know….
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KurtG wrote:What is a hand gear change? A manual transmission?
Probably a handomatic - which probably has nothing to do with a transmission ImageImageImage


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BushWacker wrote:
KurtG wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:22 pm
What is a hand gear change? A manual transmission?
... Kurt ... you too young to Know,
Forgive me!
(The Chinese say if you need bow ... bow low)

... anyway, many years ago, the gear change stick,
was on the steering column!
(... like your indicator lever, Kurt!)
But Chas, surely you would use your hand to change the gears on the column gear stick?

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Chas meant Column Shift, the correct term for a Steering Column mounted Gear Lever....
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I actually learned to drive on one of those.




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yes , thanks Manny, ' Columnn shift' is better description.

back tp topic:

where/when one has roof gutters roof load mounting
and load limits tend to be better... imo.
One can place load bars such that the gutter brackets sit above the roof supports eg above the column between the Drivers and rear window etc and not above the windows.
Even better is to have a continuous roof-rack rail on either side of the roof rack that fits the full length of the roof gutters.
Unfortunately many/most cars these days dont have roof gutters and it seems roof rack loading is presumably more of a limiting challenge.
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The other solution is to buy an MPV (like a Touran, for example) with enough interior space so you wouldn’t have to go through ALL this trouble of starting a thread, researching Ronny Dahl videos, listening to Chas bleat on and on and on about gutters etc.

Just to pack some groceries, FFS!!!

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Shane wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:59 pm
KurtG wrote:What is a hand gear change? A manual transmission?
Probably a handomatic - which probably has nothing to do with a transmission ImageImageImage
At Chas's age, he just has to hold on to his member and let auto-pilot do the rest.
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https://geordiejimny.com/jimny-roof-load-weight

I have had sleepless nights on putting a rack on my car or not ,
For Jimny owners this is a good read .

I have decided if anything load bars will serve me well for the light few odds i need, if any .
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