4x4 vs 4WD vs AWD
- Mad Manny
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Well... that escalated quickly....Apocalypse wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:55 amThe 8 speed box you are talking about has a narrow range of ratios.
You get a far better spread with a hi range abs low range.
I’m trying to imagine you handling a 10 speed manual and now my ribs hurt from laughing ...
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Oppies3800 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:30 amAll my D1 did was suck fuel and overheat
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your Tuna has 10 speeds . you struggle with a 5 speed shift pattern and an additional lever. I'm trying to imagine you picking the correct gear with a 10 speed manual shift gate or even a manual sequential shift.... a 7 speed 'H pattern' gearbox is quite a thing to deal with....Mad Manny wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:07 pmWell... that escalated quickly....Apocalypse wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:55 amThe 8 speed box you are talking about has a narrow range of ratios.
You get a far better spread with a hi range abs low range.
I’m trying to imagine you handling a 10 speed manual and now my ribs hurt from laughing ...
the standard spread of gears across a box is from around 4:1 for first, and 1:1 for 3rd, 4th or 5th (or even 6th) , with an overdrive for top
the reason that silly diesels required an 8 to 10 speed box is that they have no torque spread. you have to pick the correct gear to keep it in the torque band.
Obviously, as soon as you have a multi speed box, you have to put it into the top range models as well or people start suffering from FOMO.
If you then take those 8 speeds and pretend one is 'Gelande gear' by fitting a low diff ratio, you are really rogering the cat to make it seem like a good idea...
thats why a transfer case is a good idea...
***adds gear ratios to list of things Manny doesn't understand
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Alex, I agree I have 10 Gears.
5 Lo
5 Hi
But I really only have 7 different ratios.
Nonetheless - just as a chef never uses a Meat Clever, a Bread Knife & a Pairing knife at the same time - I don't drive a ten speed.
When I'm cruising in sublime comfort (I think wafting is pushing it a bit far - so I used cruising) to my destination I use only 5 gears(Hi).
Then, on arrival, I unleash the Lo guys & start Wrangler crushing.
I almost never, ever, use 4Lo or 5Lo - so I only use 3 gears. Mainly Lo 1 & Lo 2.
So I do ALL this & more with 7 cogs...
Powerful motors like Steam Train Engines & D-4D's don't need lots of cogs to get sh!t done!
5 Lo
5 Hi
But I really only have 7 different ratios.
Nonetheless - just as a chef never uses a Meat Clever, a Bread Knife & a Pairing knife at the same time - I don't drive a ten speed.
When I'm cruising in sublime comfort (I think wafting is pushing it a bit far - so I used cruising) to my destination I use only 5 gears(Hi).
Then, on arrival, I unleash the Lo guys & start Wrangler crushing.
I almost never, ever, use 4Lo or 5Lo - so I only use 3 gears. Mainly Lo 1 & Lo 2.
So I do ALL this & more with 7 cogs...
Powerful motors like Steam Train Engines & D-4D's don't need lots of cogs to get sh!t done!
"No one ever got stuck - in mid air!"
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'
2010 Fortuner D-4D 4x4 'Fearless'
2006 Conqueror Conquest 'Gearless'