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Chip or No Chip
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:34 pm
by Mike Nel
Another ASPW story
Do I feel sorry for him? No I don't. Fit a Chip at your own risk
That's my view
You decide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAvKTdHrFBs
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:29 pm
by grips
When I bought the 76 I had to make a decision: The 70 Series does not have a service plan. It does have a warranty that covers you to 100 000 km.
With their service ever 40 000km costing R20k because they do the wheel bearings and some normal in between services around costing around R10k to R13k.
In the end I decided to dump the warranty which was null and void in any case because of mods I had done.
Changing the wheel bearings every 40 000km? The OEM ones are still as good as new. The wheel bearing setup on the Cruiser is the same as most other 4x4`s.
So I packed the bearings with Total Ceran grease & will only inspect tgem again at 100 000km.
Also added some performance mods that does not include a Chip.
I know a Toyota work shop manager quite well. Discussed my current setup with him and particular chiping and remaping. He assured me that he would only reject an engine claim if they find a chip or remap. I will definitely not qualify for the claim because I do not service with them.
Friend of mine had an engine failure on a D-4D. Cool R70k later for a reconditioned engine & he had to bear the cost because Toyota found out that the engine was chipped.
Most chips alter fueling on a diesel which means overfueling in the end. For this reason I do not like the chip way of doing. I am old school and prefer hard mechanical mods.
As I understand Andrew St Pierre White did not remove his cats. That is fatal as overfueling will block them
Just some final note: I had a similar wear pattern on the front discs after a pad change (OEM Toyota Pads). I do believe the discs are not at fault but the pads causing the wear on the rear discs he bemoaned.
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:48 am
by Wave
Ok, I watched the attached video, Mr White is a d00s, if you think you can chip any vehicle under warranty and expect the manufacturer/dealer to honour the warranty you too are a fool. RTFM! He also states that the selling dealer will not inform you about warranty/non-warranty with chip because they might not get the sale, is also a dumb statement, over the years I have spoken to many dealers and none have ever avoided the "chip" topic, that all say warranty will fall away. In this day and age where "chipping" a vehicle is common practice dealers are more than happy to inform you that your warranty will be void, chipping increases boost and fueling on a turbo diesel engine, Toyota have done extensive testing at the factory mapping, not at the tuner set mapping... so how do they know there aren't excessive combustion temps etc?
Then he expects the dealer to give him the error code when his chipped vehicle does give an error, do they have to? Maybe if you had a decent attitude (as I expect he doesn't just by his tone in the entire video) they would, I have never had an issue about getting the relevant info from the workshop. They have reset the vehicle and tested it and sent it on its way, like most dealers do.
Then he goes on about comparing a bullbar mod as approved, to be fair, I think that most dealers don't really mind about add-ons like a bull bar, especially if its airbag tested and come from a big brand manufacturer (one of the reasons I chose an IronMan BB) its the small guys that do no testing on the products they make that COULD have an issue.
I have chipped my D4D, about 4 years ago now, along with a 76mm full free flow, the vehicle is now on 209500kms (due for service very soon) and its still going well, no smoke, easy starting, but it was out if warranty when it recieved the performance upgrades, so its all a gamble anyway.
Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:28 pm
by Mad Manny
Kurt wont be happy you criticized my beloved ASPW...
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:29 pm
by Ricof4e
ASPW talking kak as usual.
Nothing legally wrong from Toyota in refusing to honour the warranty.
Simply put: If ASPW is alleging that Toyota's refusal amounts to a breach of warranty, and as such the sale agreement, the onus rests upon him to prove that his mod did not affect the engine in such a way which would void the warranty. Its not Toyota's onus to carry.
A warranty provided by a manufacturer carries with it an implied duty on ASPW not to do anything which may potentially affect the warranty. It is not necessary to show that the mod indeed affected the performance of the part, but that it could have done so.
But ASPW probably knows this. Which is why he does not take them to court, but rather resorts to videoing his drivel in a manner which does not amount to defamation.
Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:37 pm
by KurtG
Mad Manny wrote:Kurt wont be happy you criticized my beloved ASPW...
Like you, ASPW is an irritating little moangat
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:41 pm
by Wave
Ricoffy wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 2:29 pm
but rather resorts to videoing his drivel in a manner which does not amount to defamation.
Now there is the issue with every Tom, Dick and Harry these days, whenever a big company doesn't comply with what they think is fair, they resort to social/online exposure to help get public backing hoping that the big company (in this case Toyota Australia - because ASPW flucked off to live there) will buckle and pay for the repair/replacement, I hope TA (Toyota Aus) tell ASPW to fluck off and pay for whatever went wrong on his chipped V8 D4D
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:13 pm
by Mike Nel
My opinion stays the same after reading your comments
I don’t feel sorry for him.
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:11 am
by XJ Junkie
Poor ASPW isn’t getting everything his own way again, so he goes public. Nothing new.
Modifying the engine will be prohibited in the warranty conditions for sure. Fitment if a chip changes the engine mapping. I bet engine failures on that D8D are extremely rare.
So Toyota should just tell him to take a short walk off a long cliff.
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:57 am
by Mike Nel
I had a UniChip in my Ranger for a week
It was amazing, but I started reading negative articles about it and decided to take it out. I didn't want to have issue with Ford and possible warranty claims.
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:53 am
by Wave
So you kept the Unichip and sent the Ford back?
Re: Chip or No Chip
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:03 pm
by Mike Nel
Wave wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:53 am
So you kept the Unichip and sent the Ford back?
Grap gat
