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Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:08 pm
by Chris Stoffel
The other day a horrible person told me my tyres will debead in the sand dunes so I Googled bead locks. I see a ring around on the outside of the rim but is there a ring inside the rim that pushes the bead to the rim? Is this inside ring permanently fixed to the rim? The Google pics and videos are not very clear in this.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:10 pm
by Prof
Now why would horrible person tell you such a thing?
You have large tyres?
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:22 pm
by Chris Stoffel
I have 33 Muds. BFG. I think BFG's might be the problem. Horrible person want me to deflate very low. .5 back and .8 front. He says my BFG's will debead.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:23 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Oh yes. It is on a TJ Wrangler.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:29 pm
by Quack
I run 33” M/T’s (285/70/17) on a narrow steel rim with runflat bands down to 0.3 bar and have never debeaded!
Maybe others with similar experiece?
The biggest problem is the heat you generate causes the pressure to creep up, you constantly need to deflate to keep it that low.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:30 pm
by Mad Manny
As far as I'm aware you need special rims to fit bead lockers.
They don't fit on any old rim...
So you'd need 5 new rims...
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:58 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Thanks for the replies! I thought they just drill holes in any rim. I have an electric drill if that would help? And I can cut thread as well.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:07 pm
by KurtG
Thread is like cotton used to make garments. Tread is the rubber stuff on a tyre. What are you talking about, Stoffel?
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:32 pm
by Chris Stoffel
Thread like those grooves in nuts and bolts!
I see you need some education on flex.

Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:04 pm
by XJ Junkie
Chris Stoffel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:22 pm
I have 33 Muds. BFG. I think BFG's might be the problem. Horrible person want me to deflate very low. .5 back and .8 front. He says my BFG's will debead.
For the record, I never recommended that hard at the front. Usually +0.1 more in the front than the back.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:07 pm
by XJ Junkie
Quack wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:29 pm
Maybe others with similar experiece?
The biggest problem is the heat you generate causes the pressure to creep up, you constantly need to deflate to keep it that low.
Deflate when they are still hot. Problem solved.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:13 pm
by XJ Junkie
Chris Stoffel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:58 pm
Thanks for the replies! I thought they just drill holes in any rim. I have an electric drill if that would help? And I can cut thread as well.
Ideally steel rims, not alloy, with a sufficient lip to cut. It’s a precision item. Bolts alone are a few hundred bucks per rims. The good ones have an L shaped that covers the top of the section directly over the exposed bead.
A guy called Andre from A&E makes the best ones in SA. In direct comparison to some USA imports, his are better.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:31 am
by grips
Bead locks are for real competition 4x4`s. It can be problematic to get them balanced.
4x4Traction aka Ronald Hairbottle import nice internal bead locks.
We take pressures down to 0.4 with a smile on Maxxis Bighorns and Cooper Discoverer SST`s. Not that I am a Bighorn fan they are prone to sidewall cuts and does not turn out good kilometers.
Have de-beaded BF muds on a few occasions. On defense for BF`s I can mention that I have completed a Luderitz to Walvisbay Namib dune trip on BF All Terrains @ 0.6bar. Fully loaded 4x4 six days and 600 plus km of dune driving with no de-bead.
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:25 am
by Chris Stoffel
Thanks. I googled the rims. Seems as if these are special rims. Can some normal rims be converted to bead lock rims?
Re: Bead Locks
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:37 am
by XJ Junkie
Chris Stoffel wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:25 am
Thanks. I googled the rims. Seems as if these are special rims. Can some normal rims be converted to bead lock rims?
Absolutely. Pro-White or A-Line steel wheels are the popular options.
Be careful if some of the imports. They aren’t very good as the local. Less bolts, etc.
In the USA it’s illegal to drive with them onroad in some states.