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I love the low down torque of a turbo diesel.

Both diesels I own now makes me smile, the 2.4 I. The Hilux and the 2 l in the little evoque.

I still want a bigger modern diesel like the 3l vw.

The Toyota v6 cured me from a petrol engine.

Always hunting lots of noise lots of fuel.

I have not played in dunes so will be quiet about that but as XJ said for everything else diesel.

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Hannes I can say one thing. Large capacity engines for low down torque. I own petrol and diesel v8`s still to drive an diesel turbo car available in SA that will beat a good old petrol v8 with low down grunt. I mean sub 1600rpm torque. That is before turbo`s start to spool. But ja a petrol v8 looses at the filling station every time.
You will never find me without Stroh or a 4x4 :D

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It’s true what Grips said about the turbo spooling on a diesel. Before it kicks in there’s nothing. But VVTs have helped a lot.

The other problem with diesels is that you get loads of torque, but only in a very narrow rev range. So it’s power is feast or famine. So on steep & long duration obstacles, the power is as short as a Toyota factory warranty.

For continuous torque, nothing beats a big NA petrol engine. Preferably an I6.
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This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
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grips wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:05 pm
Hannes I can say one thing. Large capacity engines for low down torque. I own petrol and diesel v8`s still to drive an diesel turbo car available in SA that will beat a good old petrol v8 with low down grunt. I mean sub 1600rpm torque. That is before turbo`s start to spool. But ja a petrol v8 looses at the filling station every time.
Yes Grips but the list of available V8 Suvs are very short.

Basically Range Rover, is there still a Jeep?, what else?

Yes for dunes I agree(Based on what you guys say)but for day to day driving I am not sure.

I grew up with big petrol chev 5.8 liter etc but have been totally converted.

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XJ Junkie wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4 ;)

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Johannes wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:59 pm
XJ Junkie wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4 ;)
It is at the petrol pump!!!

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Johannes wrote:
XJ Junkie wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4 ;)
Sorry, forgot the photo ImageImage

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:D Ok . Would love to see it ! Or you forget again ?? ;)

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Johannes wrote::D Ok . Would love to see it ! Or you forget again ?? ;)
I posted the photo
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:D Thanks !! Looks like a Standard Defender :? Ask your buddy to open the bonnet ;)

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I’ll upload a video
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XJ Junkie wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
I’ll upload a video
Is this going to take long?
Could this be sarcasm?

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Oppies3800 wrote:
XJ Junkie wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
I’ll upload a video
Is this going to take long?
Here you go

https://youtu.be/cQqIgy4llRQ
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XJ Junkie wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:33 pm
Oppies3800 wrote:
XJ Junkie wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
I’ll upload a video
Is this going to take long?
Here you go

https://youtu.be/cQqIgy4llRQ
That sound is awesome
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