Mean Mother Manny's Mikem Coil Conundrum

[LesseW]

Manny I collected my Vehicle this morning and I am super impressed again. I had the progressive coil/Bilstein on my Prado150Tx and now the same on my 120.

Harder ride but a lot better than the kk Camil suspension I had on, Camil suspension looked impressive but it was junk IMHO.


I also collected my BL this morning and the sag on the Prado now vs with Camil, is like comparing Manny to a good person.

See pics of the Prado with the new Mikem setup. i have to say that I almost went with another supplier if Manny did not intervene to get them to start replying to their clients…..








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[Johannes]

Looking good Wessel.

[Mad Manny]

After...

[Mike-PS]

Much better Manny but is the daily ride unladen too hard ?


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[LesseW]

I can’t talk on Manny’s behalf but my Prado’s new suspension is very stiff but, I’d gladly take it over rear sagging.


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[Mad Manny]

Much better Manny but is the daily ride unladen too hard ?

Not at all...

[Mad Manny]

I can’t talk on Manny’s behalf but my Prado’s new suspension is very stiff but, I’d gladly take it over rear sagging.

Drop your tyre pressures...

[Mike-PS]

There is no friken middle ground here - either to stiff to soft - pity there are no blue pills to sort out our problems


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[LesseW]

Get a kidney belt, sorted!


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[Bogaards]

Maybe I should take my Fortuner to Darrel as well. Rear also sags when loaded and when towing. I have OME Medium duty at the back.

[jakeslouw]

I've always said:
- if you want comfort or articulation, suspension needs to be soft
- if you want load capability, suspension needs to be hard

No amount of progressively wound coils will give you a perfect solution in all situations. In fact, they can sometimes be worse than standard.
Also, the correct shocks must be used: I would say on a multi-use vehicle with multiple roles and load profiles, compression and rebound adjustment would be mandatory (but who has the bucks for remote reservoir shocks........)

Also, airbags should be used as a last resort, and you better understand the limitations and risks.

Lastly: spec and fit springs and shocks for the 80% of drive conditions that you will experience.

[BushWacker]

… or get an old Classic Range Rover
sprung as soft as silk
with a self levelling unit contraption
at the back …

… can fill back … and tail gate
w full load bricks …

[jakeslouw]

"with a self levelling unit contraption"

AIR SUSPENSION...............basically air bags. See my comment.

[BushWacker]

… yes, I Think (?) D1s and D2s had/have same setup.

[jakeslouw]

… yes, I Think (?) D1s and D2s had/have same setup.

D1. Basically a RRC with a better body.
D2 had ACE which was a lot more complex.