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Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:24 am
by Mal Hannes
I love the low down torque of a turbo diesel.
Both diesels I own now makes me smile, the 2.4 I. The Hilux and the 2 l in the little evoque.
I still want a bigger modern diesel like the 3l vw.
The Toyota v6 cured me from a petrol engine.
Always hunting lots of noise lots of fuel.
I have not played in dunes so will be quiet about that but as XJ said for everything else diesel.
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:05 pm
by grips
Hannes I can say one thing. Large capacity engines for low down torque. I own petrol and diesel v8`s still to drive an diesel turbo car available in SA that will beat a good old petrol v8 with low down grunt. I mean sub 1600rpm torque. That is before turbo`s start to spool. But ja a petrol v8 looses at the filling station every time.
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm
by XJ Junkie
It’s true what Grips said about the turbo spooling on a diesel. Before it kicks in there’s nothing. But VVTs have helped a lot.
The other problem with diesels is that you get loads of torque, but only in a very narrow rev range. So it’s power is feast or famine. So on steep & long duration obstacles, the power is as short as a Toyota factory warranty.
For continuous torque, nothing beats a big NA petrol engine. Preferably an I6.
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
by XJ Junkie
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:14 pm
by Mal Hannes
grips wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:05 pm
Hannes I can say one thing. Large capacity engines for low down torque. I own petrol and diesel v8`s still to drive an diesel turbo car available in SA that will beat a good old petrol v8 with low down grunt. I mean sub 1600rpm torque. That is before turbo`s start to spool. But ja a petrol v8 looses at the filling station every time.
Yes Grips but the list of available V8 Suvs are very short.
Basically Range Rover, is there still a Jeep?, what else?
Yes for dunes I agree(Based on what you guys say)but for day to day driving I am not sure.
I grew up with big petrol chev 5.8 liter etc but have been totally converted.
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:59 pm
by Johannes
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:05 pm
by AndreasR
Johannes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:59 pm
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4
It is at the petrol pump!!!
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:33 pm
by XJ Junkie
Johannes wrote:XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:39 pm
This is a mates 6.0 LQ4. I can’t imagine many diesels competing with it offroad even in the torque dept. But I wouldn’t like to overland with it. It’ll be cheaper to fly Business Class.
Where is this 6.0 LQ4
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Sorry, forgot the photo
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Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:22 pm
by Johannes
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Ok . Would love to see it ! Or you forget again ??
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Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:24 pm
by XJ Junkie
Johannes wrote:![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Ok . Would love to see it ! Or you forget again ??
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
I posted the photo
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:33 pm
by Johannes
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Thanks !! Looks like a Standard Defender
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Ask your buddy to open the bonnet
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Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
by XJ Junkie
I’ll upload a video
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:11 pm
by Oppies3800
XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
I’ll upload a video
Is this going to take long?
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:33 pm
by XJ Junkie
Oppies3800 wrote:XJ Junkie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am
I’ll upload a video
Is this going to take long?
Here you go
https://youtu.be/cQqIgy4llRQ
Re: Diesel vs Petrol
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:31 pm
by Mike Nel