Verandering van roetes om dit makliker te maak.

[Reenen]

https://youtu.be/PKSiUY62xI0
Dit is n 3.
Na n uur met 2 hammers en paar man is dit n 2. Dit is nie nou n 2.

Party mense reken dit is n 4, net omdat hulle dit nie kan doen. Bottom line, dit bly n 3. Nie n 2

[Reenen]

On reflection.... why would anyone who drives a trail for leisure carry “trail modifying heavy rock breaking equipment” with them? It makes no sense at all and definitely not something I have ever seen, on any trail.

Presies. Tog word daar soms hammers, rock chisels ens ens aanbeveel.


Ek gebruik wel n 10 pond hammer as ek roete bou. Net n hammer, niks anders.

[Reenen]

https://youtu.be/aSi5or4hx1Q

[Reenen]

https://youtu.be/zLh8d01jFLY

Alles net 3, maar met n hammer en tyd, maak ek hom dat ek dit met my mercedes kar ry. Dus 2

[Mad Manny]

In the first video the guy hanging out the window (probably because windscreen is dirty) smacks a rock with the rock slider harder than I could with a hammer .
That Safari has serious lift yet the rock slider still took a hard blow - most guys wouldn't get over there.

Which raises a point - an 2 obstacle in a Unimog would be a 5 to a Yaris - it's relative.
What is a 4 to that Safari would be a 5 to Fearless as I only have a 38mm lift...
if that Safari had 100mm less lift it also would have struggled.

The 2nd video I don't understand.

The 3rd video shows a bunch of clueless clots giving 4x4'ing a bad name:
* Guys standing too close to vehicle.
* No underbody protection.
* Exhaust protruding where it is most likely to get damaged.
* Guy in flip flops bouncing on the back bumper.
* Neither of the pedestrians showing a line
* Etc... Etc.]
I don't 4x4 with guys like that.
Also looks like they were on the sauce.
But the pajama shorts were sexy....

[Reenen]

Die ou “op sous” is n geheelonthouer...

[Reenen]

Die ou wat by venster uithang, hou vas dat hy nie rondskuif, want hy het n gebreekte been/enkel, kan nie op vloer vas trap nie.

En moet by kant uit kyk want kan nie die klippe oor bonnet sien reg voor voertuig

[Reenen]

2de video ry bakkie 2de keer die volgende deel van roete, die klippe wat te groot is om oor te gaan word met voorhammer gebreek.

[Reenen]

Iemand op die forum het gesê om van Reenen na engels te “convert”, beteken n 50mm lift is eindlik 25mm... so fearfull se 38mm lift sal voldoende wees

[Reenen]

En daardie clueless bunch is besig om n offroad kamp en 4x4 track te bou.

En n paar van ons is besig om nou saam n plaas te koop net vir kamp en 4x4.

En daai lot reel noggal n hele paar 4x4 outings en events n jaar. N hele paar.

Ek like noggal om saam met sulke ouens te 4x4. Hulle naam sê alles

[Saxj]

Personally I find the weather & the time of year makes the biggest changes to a route.
Tierkloof at 3P has a very steep loose stoney hill with a massive rock halfway down.
When I did it, the recent rains had made it less loose & the big rock had dislodged & rolled away.
So an obstacle that modded Jeeps usually struggle with was a breeze.

When we did it (4x4AG trip) 2 vehicles got stuck there, we had to jack them up to get them over it. The owners said they had been trying to remove that rock. Maybe the owners removed it.

[Saxj]

Veronderstel mens ry n 4x4 roete wat duisende 4x4’s al gery het, en jy kom by n stuk waar jou 4x4 nie kan oor gaan. Is dit “ok” om jou kraggereedskap uitvte pluk, en bv n klip wat jou moeilikheid gee, bietjie te “trim” tot dit jou voertuig toelaat om verder te gaan?

Hoeveel verander mens aan n roete, voordat jy as n nuisance beskou word?

Besides packing a rock or two, I would say it should be an absolute NO. If you start digging rocks out, then you may be able to make it easier on the day, but not only are you changing the nature of the obstacle, but what happens after the next big rain, you have now created an erosion point, and you will end up with an obstacle that may become impassable. Then some poor sod has to cart in soil, rocks and cement to make the section of the trail usable again.

[Oppies3800]

En daardie clueless bunch is besig om n offroad kamp en 4x4 track te bou.

En n paar van ons is besig om nou saam n plaas te koop net vir kamp en 4x4.

En daai lot reel noggal n hele paar 4x4 outings en efents n jaar. N hele paar.

Ek like noggal om saam met sulke ouens te 4x4. Hulle naam sê alles

Vatikaki

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[ThysleRoux]

Personally, I do not regard a route that has been "built" using earth moving equipment as an off-road trail.

Reenen's example is a real trail - it was established by driving up the mountain, picking a drivable route and with minor adjustments to the natural lay of the land, making it passable. Any "route" that was created by digger loaders or other earth moving equipment is a road - sometimes not an easy road to travel by, but still a road.

I agree with Reenen and others - permanent alterations of a trail to suit your individual vehicle or group, is not acceptable. There are always alternatives if a specific obstacle is beyond your own or your vehicle's capability, even if it means reversing halfway down the mountain to a point where you can turn around.

[Hedgehog]

En daardie clueless bunch is besig om n offroad kamp en 4x4 track te bou.

En n paar van ons is besig om nou saam n plaas te koop net vir kamp en 4x4.

En daai lot reel noggal n hele paar 4x4 outings en efents n jaar. N hele paar.

Ek like noggal om saam met sulke ouens te 4x4. Hulle naam sê alles

Vatikaki

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Entrance requirements:
You must 4x4 with one hand
You must try and break your car
You must have an elbow out of the window when doing doughnuts
You must drink when 4x4ing
Don't vat kak from no body
If you cannot make an obstacle the first time... Beat it into submission with your rocksliders...

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