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Do you consider guys who are willing to damage their vehicles when off road, heroes?

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Jeanvn wrote:
Reenen wrote:Ek sit op my hande
Dit is hoekom ek en jy nie baie maaitjies het nie Image

Deel van die pret is mos om jouself en jou voertuig so vêr as moontlik te druk.

Dit beteken nie noodwendig mens is n cow boy nie, maar soms moet mens bietjie momentum gebruik soms kan mens weer wegkom met so stadig as moontlik.


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As hy breek, maak ek hom reg.

Nie dat ek al ooit regtig skade opgedoen het nie.

Selfs my speelgoed is spotless en skraapvry.


Maar kom ons stel dit so: 2 mense is al daai bult uit waar ek met safari uit is. Die ander persoon is op al wat n Toyota groep wat bestaan geban, want hulle like dit nie hoe hy n “Toyota “ so kan opfok nie... As iemand anders ooit daar uit ry, dan sal ek my hoed afhaal en hom salueer.


Wat my wel pla, as eknn ding opbou om boundries te push, hoekom altyd die fokkers wat moan oor hoe mens ry en kamptig goed opneuk?? My ryding, my skade... as ek eendag skade kry...
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Interesting thread .

I think the whole thing comes down to each persons perspective.

I don’t like the word ‘momentum’. That’s something Thys would use. I prefer the term ‘velocity’. Much better.

Some will enter obstacles with a very high probability of damage, others won’t. But I find that the most hesitant get into trouble first because they lack confidence & commitment.

One man’s grade 5 is another man’s grade 2.
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Reenen wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:28 pm
Jeanvn wrote:
Reenen wrote:Ek sit op my hande
Dit is hoekom ek en jy nie baie maaitjies het nie Image

Deel van die pret is mos om jouself en jou voertuig so vêr as moontlik te druk.

Dit beteken nie noodwendig mens is n cow boy nie, maar soms moet mens bietjie momentum gebruik soms kan mens weer wegkom met so stadig as moontlik.


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As hy breek, maak ek hom reg.

Nie dat ek al ooit regtig skade opgedoen het nie.

Selfs my speelgoed is spotless en skraapvry.


Maar kom ons stel dit so: 2 mense is al daai bult uit waar ek met safari uit is. Die ander persoon is op al wat n Toyota groep wat bestaan geban, want hulle like dit nie hoe hy n “Toyota “ so kan opfok nie... As iemand anders ooit daar uit ry, dan sal ek my hoed afhaal en hom salueer.


Wat my wel pla, as eknn ding opbou om boundries te push, hoekom altyd die fokkers wat moan oor hoe mens ry en kamptig goed opneuk?? My ryding, my skade... as ek eendag skade kry...
Ek stem Reenen ek is nou meer 'n web weeler as 'n cowboy maar ek stem, dis my car en my skade en net my vrou mag iets sê.
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Jeanvn wrote:
Reenen wrote:Ek sit op my hande
Dit is hoekom ek en jy nie baie maaitjies het nie Image

Deel van die pret is mos om jouself en jou voertuig so vêr as moontlik te druk.

Dit beteken nie noodwendig mens is n cow boy nie, maar soms moet mens bietjie momentum gebruik soms kan mens weer wegkom met so stadig as moontlik.


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Het genoeg om elke naweek te kan gaan ry. Ek is gelukkig met vriende waar ek die bangste en versigtigste is...
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Mal Hannes wrote:
Reenen wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:28 pm
Jeanvn wrote:
Dit is hoekom ek en jy nie baie maaitjies het nie Image

Deel van die pret is mos om jouself en jou voertuig so vêr as moontlik te druk.

Dit beteken nie noodwendig mens is n cow boy nie, maar soms moet mens bietjie momentum gebruik soms kan mens weer wegkom met so stadig as moontlik.


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As hy breek, maak ek hom reg.

Nie dat ek al ooit regtig skade opgedoen het nie.

Selfs my speelgoed is spotless en skraapvry.


Maar kom ons stel dit so: 2 mense is al daai bult uit waar ek met safari uit is. Die ander persoon is op al wat n Toyota groep wat bestaan geban, want hulle like dit nie hoe hy n “Toyota “ so kan opfok nie... As iemand anders ooit daar uit ry, dan sal ek my hoed afhaal en hom salueer.


Wat my wel pla, as eknn ding opbou om boundries te push, hoekom altyd die fokkers wat moan oor hoe mens ry en kamptig goed opneuk?? My ryding, my skade... as ek eendag skade kry...
Ek stem Reenen ek is nou meer 'n web weeler as 'n cowboy maar ek stem, dis my car en my skade en net my vrou mag iets sê.
Net as sy betaal het vir my 4x4.



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Reenen wrote:
Jeanvn wrote:
Reenen wrote:Ek sit op my hande
Dit is hoekom ek en jy nie baie maaitjies het nie Image

Deel van die pret is mos om jouself en jou voertuig so vêr as moontlik te druk.

Dit beteken nie noodwendig mens is n cow boy nie, maar soms moet mens bietjie momentum gebruik soms kan mens weer wegkom met so stadig as moontlik.


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Het genoeg om elke naweek te kan gaan ry. Ek is gelukkig met vriende waar ek die bangste en versigtigste is...
Ek is nie meer so lucky nie, jaloers!

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Die punt van die thread is.... vir die wat so geafronteerd voel... Dink julle dis "skill" of "guts" (ander mense noem "guts" iets anders)

En dink julle die manne wat so "die guts het om so sonder skill te ry" is heroes?
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Hedgehog wrote:Die punt van die thread is.... vir die wat so geafronteerd voel... Dink julle dis "skill" of "guts" (ander mense noem "guts" dit iets anders)

En dink julle die manne wat so "die guts het om so sonder skill te ry" is heroes?
Daar is n verskil tussen hard speel en so bietjie trail rash kry en dronk wees en in die dam in ry.

Vir ander mense lyk dit dalk of die wat hard speel onnodig kanse vat?



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Jeanvn wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:55 am
Hedgehog wrote:Die punt van die thread is.... vir die wat so geafronteerd voel... Dink julle dis "skill" of "guts" (ander mense noem "guts" dit iets anders)

En dink julle die manne wat so "die guts het om so sonder skill te ry" is heroes?
Daar is n verskil tussen hard speel en so bietjie trail rash kry en dronk wees en in die dam in ry.

Vir ander mense lyk dit dalk of die wat hard speel onnodig kanse vat?



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Ek stem, en ek het geen pyn met mense wat hard speel nie.

Ek koop nuwe karre en gaan ry 4x4 net die volgende dag... Ek het my Patrol se AGTER BUMPER MOER TOE GERY IN DIE EERSTE MAAND ....die thread was ook nie bedoel om iets te se teen mense wat hard speel nie. ;)

Die thread, is daar om te sien hoe die ander manne die mense sien.. Nie dies wat hard speel nie, maar die wat dink 4x4 is ramp en spin en rol, en breek... Al het hy hom self gebou.. 8-)

Ek sal nou twee videos post, een van iemand wat skill het in petrol trap en die stuurwiel vashou (meestal net een hand :lol: ) en iemand wat lyne kies en traksie gebruik... :twisted:

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The most I have learned about making use of available traction, picking lines and using using your throttle for maximum effect is on a trials bike. The interesting thing is all of those 2 wheel skills are just as applicable to off road on 4 wheels.
The throttle is just one of many different tools available to the driver. Unfortunately it is one of the most difficult to master but the one most widely used.

I have no issues with guys using momentum when applicable but generally walk away when someone starts using the "big hammer" approach to beat an obstacle into submission.
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https://youtu.be/hxXUkExlxRs


https://youtu.be/40egt8Svpu0


:lol: :lol: :lol: It was much harder to find comparable vids on youtube than what I thought.. :D

But I think this will demonstrate what I mean.. Check out the little red Jeep in the second vid... Someone explained to that guy how his LSdiff works, but he took it too literal.. :P
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One day I want to get it right to drive like this.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3scRYxA_b8
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XJ Junkie wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:43 pm
 Interesting thread Image.

I think the whole thing comes down to each persons perspective.

I don’t like the word ‘momentum’. That’s something Thys would use. I prefer the term ‘velocity’. Much better.

Some will enter obstacles with a very high probability of damage, others won’t. But I find that the most hesitant get into trouble first because they lack confidence & commitment.

One man’s grade 5 is another man’s grade 2.
Go tickle yourself with a feather.

There is a huge difference between velocity (speed) and momentum (mass multiplied by velocity in a specific direction)

To achieve the same momentum a feather will need much more speed than a rock of the same size.

If you do not understand this concept and how it affects off-road driving, you should stick to cleaning shelves ................................... :twisted:
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So... The more dust.. the better offroader you are?

Né?

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Wooky wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:00 am
 One day I want to get it right to drive like this.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3scRYxA_b8
:D You need to buy the Mog first :P :P
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